Thomas22
Thomas22
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Topics: 4 / Replies: 244
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RE: Confused about the feasibility of pallet expansion (25 year old male)

I’m older than you. My palate is 4mms wider, and my lower jaw has moved forward 4mms. My airway is more than 50% larger. Measurements based on X-ray s…

4 months ago
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RE: I believe Craniofacial Dystrophy is impossible to fix in adults

The palate expander improvements are measurable, your zygote might grow 2mms, for example. In pictures you just have the sense that the after photos a…

6 months ago
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RE: I believe Craniofacial Dystrophy is impossible to fix in adults

I don’t think mewing works. Or at least, you can’t mew your way out of this Everyone should mew, naturally, the people who don’t, like me, have a…

6 months ago
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RE: 15M, overcrowding, vaulted palate, have some questions

Oh, it also opened up my right Eustachian tube which had been a problem since I was a child.

8 months ago
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RE: 15M, overcrowding, vaulted palate, have some questions

I’m generally happy with my appliance. Because of work, I don’t wear it for 12 to 16 hours a day, and so it’s going slower. I may be wearing it fou…

8 months ago
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RE: Lower teeth expansion with mewing

If you have poor tongue posture it’s probably because of a tongue tie. I don’t think you can correct maxilla issues as an adult without some kind o…

10 months ago
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RE: A new personal theory ccw rotation of maxilla + increasing bone volume in Gonion region

Your best bet is simply correcting your oral posture with a device, like the Vivos appliance (which repositions your jaw) and then letting time work i…

10 months ago
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RE: Overall aesthetic improvements for adults with MSE treatment

I assume the rest of the face will slowly remodel after MSE expansion.

1 year ago
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RE: Achieving Face and Skull Symmetry in Adults

Did it predate your MSE? Is that possible?Dr. Belfor has scans of his Homeoblock patients, that show changes in the sphenoid. The sphenoid grows with …

1 year ago
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RE: Teeth tipping whilst expanding

@lovelifetobits100 I suspect lower appliances are unnecessary. Your lower jaw will probably remodel to match your upper.

1 year ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

I started hyperbaric treatment this week for unrelated reasons. Hyperbaric medicine does many things, but it also mobilizes stem cells and speeds u…

1 year ago
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RE: Is the front part of the palate more improtant to achieve forward growth?

I have a short mid face, because of a tongue tie. I make good contact with my forward palate, but the tie prevents contact with the rear of the …

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

My maxilla is rotated counter clockwise, and so I asked about it. My provider was cautious about making any promises, but he said that if it does c…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

Changes creep up on you. My face is very symmetrical now. I don’t have normal forward growth, especially compared to my siblings, but hopeful…

2 years ago
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RE: Sleeping on the side

I don’t think you have much control over how you sleep. You’ll change posture when you fall asleep, and continue to shift through the night. Stomach…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer It varies from mild pressure, to light pain. The pain runs in a straight line, right down my nasal bone to where it meets the cartilage….

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

The pressure in the bridge if my nose is becoming stronger. I have no idea whats happening, mechanically, is the cartilage shifting? Is the nasal bo…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

For the record, how much forward growth is the Y Appliance capable of? Physically, I can expand my appliance by at least a one cm. The provide…

2 years ago
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RE: Is it possible to be treated remotely with the biobloc, homeblock or DNA appliance?

I don’t think so. The provider will physically adjust the appliance when you visit. They might bend this piece, or that. My provider has me come in …

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

In nine months of treatment, my IMW has gone from 38mm to 41mm. It doesn’t appear like it’s going to stop anytime soon either. I don’t feel any resist…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

I had asked my provider when I would be finished with expansion. They said I would eventually stop responding to the appliance. That at some point, ex…

2 years ago
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RE: Coronavirus Covid-19

Don’t forget to panic!

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s document an ALF appliance!

Good luck! If I could go back to the start, I would take monthly photos. And I would buy a medical caliper to measure my facial width pre treatment.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

The lower appliance also makes my face look more proportional, because of the way it moves my mandible forward.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

I’d forgotten how much a difference the lower appliance makes. When I woke up this morning, it felt like someone had replaced my spine with rebar. …

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@apollo I would like to believe that changing one dimension, palate width, would result in corresponding changes across the facial complex.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

The plastic shelf is perhaps 2mm to 3mm higher on the left side. So when I bite down, the appliance is lopsided. Higher on the left, lower on the …

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer I was instructed not to advance my lower for the first three weeks. The doctor said we needed to “unravel” my lower jaw. Which makes sen…

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

I tripped over a comment by Ira Shapira. He said that one of the reasons he likes the dna appliance is because it will drop the roof of your mou…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer The overlay isn’t flat on my appliance. It’s raised on one side to create a bite block. I don’t know if it’s as effective as Homeoblock…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

Despite what you read, the DNA Appliance does have a bite block on one side of the lower appliance. Perhaps that’s a factor.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@mysterecessed Vivos made me a new lower appliance which I have not expanded at all, yet. If it was fully expanded, it would expand 6mm.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@mysterecessed The lower appliance stopped fitting after three months of treatment. It took a long time to get it replaced. Mostly due to issues on…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@mysterecessed No I’ve only worn the upper appliance for six months total, and the bottom appliance three months. And that may be part of it. Bu…

2 years ago
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RE: question for those who got expansion with expanders Did your sleep improve?

@mr-mewing I like those scans, you can just see how the bones are too far back. No one ever spoke about dreaming when I began treatment, but it…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

My provider fixed my lower appliance, and I’m wearing it again for the first time since April 2020. One thing that’s odd. It doesn’t center your l…

2 years ago
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RE: question for those who got expansion with expanders Did your sleep improve?

I don’t snore anymore. And I dream again. I haven’t dreamed since I was a kid. I’m doing a sleep test in a few weeks and I’ll share my numbers…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer When I was 12 my orthodontist glued my front teeth together, so they would look “good”. When I started treatment with the DNA Appliance, my…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer Yes This will take some visual thinking to imagine. I have a cross bite, my jaws are at an angle to each other, so if the fins are ad…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

Stray observation The fins on the DNA Appliance hold your jaw forward, but they also rotate it.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

Within the first hour. It’s a recent development. Have you considered surgery, when you finish treatment? I have a diastema

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

One theory? Maybe my septum is straightening out. Perhaps the pressure from the appliance moves things, just enough, so that it starts to straighten…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

My nose opens up when I wear the appliance in the evening. I have no idea what’s going on, but it is much easier to breathe through my nose when I’…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

This provider has his adult patients on a two week expansion cycle, and cautions that the lower appliance might need to be expanded even more slowly.

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer potentially 2mm, I would need to wind it back all the way to see. As far as the pressure goes, it’s one sided. I feel it on my left, but no…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@toomer Let me see if I have a measuring tape. It feels like compression. I passed my one year mark. But with everything, I’m probably at the six…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

When I started treatment I felt pressure on my nose bridge. I still feel that when I wear the appliance, but I’m also feeling pressure along the lower…

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy – Cutting a Tongue Tie

@toomer I was probably eight the first time I performed self surgery. I had gravel embedded in my knee from a fall, and so I took a penknife and cut i…

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy – Cutting a Tongue Tie

A white tissue grew over the wound within a day. It looks almost like cartalige. Pale white and nearly translucent I noticed this morning that it …

2 years ago
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RE: Help with Tongue Tie

For laser treatment, I was quoted 570. The said it might be lower when they did the final total. It is a medical procedure, and it can be covered by…

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy – Cutting a Tongue Tie

@toomer I think I’m breathing more easily too.

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy – Cutting a Tongue Tie

@pizzaman500 I think it feels more natural. But again I don’t trust my judgement. It does feel like the back of my tongue is making contact wit…

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy

I think it improved my posture, but I don’t trust my judgement. I could be wishing that into reality.

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy

Dr. Bennett in Utah preaches myofunctional therapy, before and after cutting a tongue tie. The surgeon I saw here said it just wouldn’t regrow, and …

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy

I think my default tongue position has changed. It’s shifted left. The left side of my face is underdeveloped. Since having the tongue tie cut, I’v…

2 years ago
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RE: Lingual Frenectomy

My voice has changed. It sounds better. I assume the restricted tongue movement was preventing what should have been my normal speech. I was playin…

2 years ago
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