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RE: What do you guys think of this facepulling method

@apollo Yes fixed anchorage is obviously ideal but isn’t feasible unless you have true midface hypoplasia. Not entirely sure about the oscillating …

2 years ago
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RE: What do you guys think of this facepulling method

@apollo In theory the traction should either be kinda like an expansion screw itself or be pulsated. If we are going with something working like …

2 years ago
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RE: What do you guys think of this facepulling method

@apollo If you do wind up using it, can you experiment with expanding at the semi-rapid rate of 1/8 mm per day (to soften and disarticulate sutures)…

2 years ago
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RE: 18 year old problems..

Cranium and wrist grow thicker with age.

2 years ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

@skethoskope I advise going to an ortho, asymmetry is pretty difficult to correct on your own. I myself have a 3mm midline shift and even after mew…

2 years ago
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RE: It’s been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward?

@admin AGGA is a very poor way to even make alveolar ridge movements. The mechanics are way off. John Mew says Steve Galella (AGGA creator) invi…

2 years ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

@skethoskope Most likely TMJ. Do you have a midline shift as well?

2 years ago
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RE: The Principles Behind Biobloc and AGGA Versus What They Actually Do.

Here is a Gif I have compiled with each step for your viewing leisure.

2 years ago
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RE: Considering AGGA+Controlled Arch or DNA

@darby_jones AGGA tries to do this by pushing on teeth rather than tipping them and using controlled arch braces to try make them upright in that fo…

2 years ago
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RE: Considering AGGA+Controlled Arch or DNA

@darby_jones @greyham AGGA is based on a sound principle but in practice this is not carried out due to use of improper mechanics and rates of mov…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@aleksandr444200 IMO those forces themselves may be too much. Gentle forces like the resting force of the tongue. These will lead to positive maxi…

2 years ago
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RE: So, my Torus Palatinus is disappearing. My thoughts, speculations and excitement.

My personal belief agrees that maxillary tori happen is because of bruxism, be it nighttime or daytime or any other sutural strain. The massive force…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@aleksandr444200 CCW rotation comes in two types, we are assuming a superimposition on the F-N stable landmark plane here so these movements may loo…

2 years ago
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RE: Negative consequences on forehead and chin from facemask back pressure

Your chin might be forced back a bit due to the backward force on it and the tmj condyle jamming up against the socket. But trust me your forehead is…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@basim I think invisalign is a good choice for you. Make sure you aren’t pulling the upper teeth back with the movement or opening the bite up with…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@basim You do have a considerable midline shift. But from what I can see this midline shift seems mostly dental, unless you have actual asymmetry o…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@basim Do you have a pic of your natural bite? I think it’d be helpful to see a pic before specific recommendations.

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@basim I’d advise keeping teeth in very gentle contact, they should barely be touching. Since your bite is deep your incisors will touch before you…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@basim Teeth should still be in gentle contact as long as you are class 1 (no overjet/excessive deep bite). You have a lot of spaces in your teeth …

2 years ago
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RE: Assorted Stories from the Web

The preparation phase pushes both upper and lower incisors forward and up/down respectively. The upper incisors are tipped forward to correct the “in…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@fgsfds Sure you can rebreak sutures and maybe pull the maxilla forward more. This is especially helpful in class 3 underbite cases. But most peop…

2 years ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

@cristiang09_ I see what you mean there is a subtly visible change. The back part of the palate is very flexible and thin bone-wise so you definite…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@toomer Went through Greyham’s post and found this research done on slow maxillary expansion and facial changes: Interesting stuff and would rec…

2 years ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

@roflcopters John Mew is very vocally against hard mewing. He always pushes very light action over a long period of time as his entire point is mil…

2 years ago
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RE: so I Found my old case orthodontic pictures and x-rays

You can see in the time from before to after the change in the shape of your under eye area/ cheek but also how a slight hump has developed on the nos…

2 years ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

I am very sorry to hear about your experience Cristian. I think I agree that too much pushing of the posterior tongue upward much more than the anter…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

I believe a lot of what you’re saying is true as well. One needs to look more into intermittent vs light constant forces to see the applications of b…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

I think a good analogy of intermittent force can be to the swallowing that we do a few times a minute. That may have some kind of effect, perhaps mic…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

How about pushing the lower incisors against the uppers gently? That can definitely help. Yeah that can happen. But if its done slowly, you won’…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

@auxiliarus Hence why light contact is key, clenching the teeth just intrudes them, but keeping them in that ‘butterfly bite’ allows for much slower…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

A couple pics I found. These cases relapse due to the muscular forces from their previous jaw alignment pulling the jaws slowly back over time. Anot…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

Perhaps. One needs to note the TMJ position can change based on cranial base angle changes. The orbital rim is a possibility, especially the upper ri…

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

And now a comparison between the skull I demonstrated on from beginning to end:

2 years ago
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RE: What Goes Wrong in Growth and How Can an Adult Fix it

Continued: The video by Dr Mahony is this:/p> Starting at 01:02:19 he goes into this concept of condylar remodeling and the muscles adapting to a …

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@thebeastpanda Not entirely sure about the MSE list, might just be a list of people who completed the certification. The mandible following the ma…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@thebeastpanda The choice is up to you. I’d recommend at the very least getting a stage 3 to get the mandible to a more optimal position. My criti…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@thebeastpanda The best way to determine skeletal maturation is cervical vertebral maturation, which basically measures how well developed the spine…

2 years ago
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RE: Here is why MSE+FM doesn’t and won’t produce much forward movement in adults

@thebeastpanda It depends on your skeletal maturation, the farther along puberty you are the less effective it is/more forces you need, which in my …

2 years ago
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RE: Has Anyone Managed to Reduce their Indicator Line?

@apollo Do you think the “jaw jutting” test is a good measure of how far forward the mandible needs to come?

2 years ago
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RE: Has Anyone Managed to Reduce their Indicator Line?

@auxiliarus Very interesting. What was the timeframe this happened over? Was this just from practicing the tropic premise or did you use specific …

2 years ago
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RE: Clenching impacting the maxilla, causing the jaw to swing forward (Bill Hang)

@progress In this case what would you recommend for a deep bite with a long mid face and a short lower third? Mine seems to be this way so maybe st…

2 years ago
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RE: Mike Mew Q&A Response Video!

My thanks to TGW for putting this together. And of course, my thanks to Dr. Mew for taking the time to answer my question.

5 years ago
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RE: Force that Can Be Applied to the Maxilla

Yeah sorry guys, that was quite idiotic of me. It is completely irrational to apply those amounts of force. I lifted a 1 kg weight and realized how …

5 years ago
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RE: Dr. Mike Mew Q&A Session

It is a pleasure to be able to speak with you, Dr. Mew. I would like to apologize in advance for the length of this. My questions are theoretical …

5 years ago
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RE: Force that Can Be Applied to the Maxilla

Alright, thank you for explaining this to me. But my only question is how one is able to apply 2-3 pounds to the maxilla when using maxillary expande…

5 years ago
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RE: Force that Can Be Applied to the Maxilla

I will be using a modified version of the headgear found on facepulling.com, with a similar mouthpiece but different mechanism for pulling force.

5 years ago
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RE: Force that Can Be Applied to the Maxilla

With an extra oral appliance. I will only be using that force for 12 hrs a day.

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