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10 months ago
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RE: Clenching impacting the maxilla, causing the jaw to swing forward (Bill Hang)

@judicator-v2 If a person had been mewing properly since growing up, they would usually have a lot of gaps (primate spaces, leeway space of Nance, etc…

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@chilly @Apollo We are all gonna make it!

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@apollo @chilly How old are you guys? I am in my 30s and male

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@apollo do you have photos/documentation for your case or is there an old thread where we can find it?

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@chilly You have a very good side profile already! You are doing quite well, congratulations!

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@chilly Yes, my anterior part looks very narrow in the mold picture. The mold was taken 1 month ago. This is why in the second picture you see me with…

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@chilly I am completely with you on your points! I will remember to measure my head but I will first need to figure out an accurate way to measure i…

1 year ago
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RE: Ideal palate width = size of tongue

@chilly I just wanted to stop by and second your argument that the size of the tongue should be a critical benchmark for the shape of the palate. Had …

1 year ago
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RE: Clenching impacting the maxilla, causing the jaw to swing forward (Bill Hang)

@judicator-v2 Good question! Here is my attempt to illustrate this: as you are biting/clenching, focus on shifting the mandible forward at the sam…

1 year ago
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RE: Need Advice! Should I get MSE + Facemask? Any better options – Biobloc?

@alexroyf2 single tooth intrusion via TADs: intrusion of whole posterior segment (you can think of less bulky versions where you have a less thi…

1 year ago
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RE: Clenching impacting the maxilla, causing the jaw to swing forward (Bill Hang)

@a22 Thanks for the reddit link. I believe that these people are biting hard at the molars rather than biting “forward” (which is what will lead to …

1 year ago
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RE: Need Advice! Should I get MSE + Facemask? Any better options – Biobloc?

@alexroyf2 You’re welcome! You can see how much forward and upward movement of the maxilla you get from splitting the suture alone. Usually it is pr…

1 year ago
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RE: Clenching impacting the maxilla, causing the jaw to swing forward (Bill Hang)

It seems that this guy impacted his posterior teeth and caused a CW rotation of his occlusal plane. But also something happened to that antegonial not…

1 year ago
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RE: SmileDirect doesn’t fix crossbites?

@fousey You cannot expect a comprehensive orthodontic treatment by a direct-to-consumer service like Smile Direct. They will not touch any structura…

1 year ago
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RE: explain this !! great results after teeth extraction

Also note the nose angle is completely parallel with his forehead angle. This is a clear giveaway that he is severely recessed.

1 year ago
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RE: Need Advice! Should I get MSE + Facemask? Any better options – Biobloc?

@alexroyf2 Thank you for sharing your information on your case! Here is what I see: You are downward grown (hooked nose since the part of …

1 year ago
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RE: Some thoughts for people with high/vaulted palate

@macbeth You put wax on the stone model so that it occupies space that the acrylic then misses. So you get a gap between the acrylic and the palate …

2 years ago
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RE: Some thoughts for people with high/vaulted palate

@macbeth Just shave off the acrylic touching the upper part of your palate (leave the acrylic touching the sides).

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

I am not sure you are understanding. Either your natural mandible position is forward or something has to push the mandible forward. Since you are anc…

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer Any acrylic expander aimed at creating enough tongue space and facilitating good oral posture will cure sleep apnea.

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer Well in that case we are back at a perfectly standard acrylic expander. This brings me to my point that Vivos is simply selling a standard acr…

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer If sleeping on your side completely prevents the backwards pull on the maxilla (as a reaction to the forwards pull of the mandible), why do yo…

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

Has any of you people who swear by Vivos thought about the fact that this so-called “mRNA appliance” is directly pulling back your maxillae if you sle…

2 years ago
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RE: Why MSE (maxillary expansion) won’t expand mandible with maxilla?

@eleigh The only reason your mandible would come forward naturally is because it is currently being held back, e.g., due to premature contact with tee…

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@cliffbars It depends on the patient’s tendency. If you have a tendency for your incisors to retrocline, having no acrylic support in the back (and al…

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer See the chopstick analogy by Won Moon:/p>

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@toomer I did not say that the TAD-mounted expander is removable though 🙂 I made my own removable version with the same effect. No need to drill scr…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

@toomer case B is a TAD-mounted acrylic expander. See this video:/p> When I looked into it, I noticed that the TADs have the sole purpose of anch…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

GPa = Giga Pascal, a unit for pressure 0.008 GPa is just 20% shy of 0.010 GPa. I don’t think that 20% matter at all clinically speaking… What dist…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

@mr-sand-man123 Also, regarding her strong support of surgery: Have you seen the case that she used in the video? The motivation was that the female…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

@mr-sand-man123 Think what you will. I have no stake in DNA or Vivos (I actually find it shady as hell as well). I am treating myself by fabricati…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

@toomer I fully agree. Here is the part:/p> Check out the segment starting at 3:30, as well as the segment starting at 8:57. Regarding the sti…

2 years ago
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RE: Has anyone used a forward-pull facemask with a Vivos DNA appliance?

You mentioned Ron’s interview with Dr. Bockow: I have to say I was quite disappointed with her viewpoints. She equated acrylic expanders with a Hyrax …

2 years ago
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RE: Reversing extractions with invisalign alone

@recessedjawline Interesting. Did the 8-9mm intermolar width expansion come from Invisalign alone? That sounds interesting. Was there outward tiltin…

2 years ago
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RE: Correct occlusion

@toomer Even if you have a “normal” overjet, the outside edges of your lower incisors will touch the lingual surface of your upper incisors.

2 years ago
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RE: Probably need *another* double-jaw surgery (cephalogram attached)

@mr_man Thanks for the additional info! Yes, I am also using these types of elastics myself. I am also an adult patient. We seem to be interested in s…

2 years ago
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RE: Probably need *another* double-jaw surgery (cephalogram attached)

@mr_man That’s amazing! I am also a strong proponent that even in adults, you can still protract the maxilla (even if it just the alveolar part, which…

2 years ago
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RE: Correct occlusion

Ideally, all teeth should contact at the same time (at the same pressure).

2 years ago
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RE: What do you think of my jaw?(PICTURES)

@revolutioncom Thanks for the additional photos! Were you already in treatment before? It seems two bicuspids have been pulled from your lower jaw. Yo…

2 years ago
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RE: What do you think of my jaw?(PICTURES)

Thanks for posting your case. It is hard to judge from the photos, but from the ceph it seems that you have an edge-to-edge bite on your incisors? Y…

2 years ago
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RE: Can the maxilla be pushed forwards from the mouth without moving the alveolar ridge?

@fluffycutecat It is not that the AGGA pushes on the palate that is the problem, it is because it pushes directly on the teeth (the canines), and the …

2 years ago
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RE: Can the maxilla be pushed forwards from the mouth without moving the alveolar ridge?

@fluffycutecat What do you mean by ruining the front teeth? It may bend the alveolar bone and thereby tilt the front teeth that are in the bone.

2 years ago
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RE: Probably need *another* double-jaw surgery (cephalogram attached)

@mr_man Thanks for providing the additional info! I guess your mandibular arch got widened from your tongue being in there. Your tongue is also on the…

2 years ago
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RE: Probably need *another* double-jaw surgery (cephalogram attached)

@mr_man Were you resting your tongue in your lower jaw? An IMW of the mandible of 50 mm is enormous (are you measuring between the teeth or between th…

2 years ago
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RE: Thoughts on u/SlipperyD3vil ?

Most of the changes reported by users at r/Mewing or r/orthotropics are due to different angles. Also here, in the after picture, you can see be…

2 years ago
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RE: Is pushing Teeth always bad?

It depends, but usually, advancing teeth forward works and I would advise it to release a trapped mandible. If you have retroclined upper incisors, pr…

2 years ago
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RE: Active plate expansion progress at 19 years old

@kilroy Before you give up on the expander, I suggest the following: After each turn of the screw, trim away the acrylic touching the teeth a little b…

2 years ago
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RE: Have I over-mewed? At which point do you stop? 44-45mm IMW, 40mm Mew line. Maybe slight changes to dorsal hump.

@chiefkeefsosa He measured the indicator line incorrectly. It is not about where the ruler touches the nose first. You have to extend it to the inters…

2 years ago
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RE: TMJ, deep overbite, recessed side profile, seeking advice

@retroclined_incisors You seem to have somewhat of a Class 2 division 2 malocclusion. As is typically the case, this goes hand in hand with a deep …

2 years ago
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RE: Probably need *another* double-jaw surgery (cephalogram attached)

@Mr_Man was your bimax 23 years ago considered successful? What happened in the meantime? A relapse? Do you have a bilateral posterior crossbite now…

2 years ago
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RE: Average intercanine width for males?

@thomas22 measured from cusp to cusp or the distance between the canines from inside?

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 You originally had a bit of a pointy front of the arch. Maybe the gaps formed during your expansion so far resolved themselves by producing …

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 If you expand, you will get gaps. You should close them by pushing all the teeth mesially to the front. What is your plan for the fine adj…

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 Interesting. Is your tongue more on the wider side? Mine is. In this case, one would need a more wider, circular arch that sits more forwa…

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 Despite the right canine which looks slightly rotated to the distal, it seems that you have a pretty well-developed arch already.

2 years ago
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RE: Why doesn’t facepulling work?

Not necessarily. It requires a lot of commitment to be facepulling (ideally 24/7) and many people just do not have the ability or concentration to wea…

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 This one, right? Well, from what it seems is that your incisors are very much shovel-shaped, i.e., they have a lot of “sideways undercu…

2 years ago
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RE: Expander/ incisor sensitivity

@mewem143 do you have a photo of the expander (ideally mounted on your dental cast)

2 years ago
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