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How is it better than biobloc, MSA appliance?
I think in the end people will figure out it is easier to grow additional bone on the face than move the existing skull fragments.
Are you referring to my scans? You will see that the gonial angle is very high.
Problem with Le Fort I is that it doesn’t move the face forward within the borders of sutures. It makes a cut on natural bone, it doesn’t move forward…
@mr_man I have been turned down because risk/reward is just not there. I would benefit from Le Fort II or Le Fort III that moves the nose forward, but…
So basically there is nothing better than Le Fort Osteotomy?
So the consensus is that this treatment is a failure, correct?
So MSE is more effective than MARPE in terms maxillary expansion? What is maximum mm in width you can get with MSE? And what is maximum mm of forwar…
Can you combine MARPE with Facemask to bring maxilla forward after expanding palate?
So apparently varbrah got great results, but has anyone actually heard from him?
I don’t push my front teeth when moving Sergio!
Sorry, I don’t believe this. Sounds cult-like almost. Next thing I will read is that it cures cancer. Why can’t we look at it rationally. Yes, mewing …
Goalpushing: The Post. Whatever I do I must be doing it wrong. If I visit myofunctional clinic I must still be doing it wrong. Yes, everyone for wh…
Sorry, but this is bullshit. Literally always can use the “UR NoT DOin it RITE!!11” excuse for everything. The fact that I’ve been years on these f…
Wait, his palate literally showed expansion. How can it be fooling himself?
Uhh, what? No, I want wider palate and move maxilla forward to also improve airways and aesthetics. My mose is narrow and face is long due to narrow p…
Nobody on this earth is holding mewing 24/7, that is literally impossible by definition as I can’t do boxing while nose breathing or eating while nose…
I have last casts photographed and measured and posted on forum in older threads. I will be getting done the same to new ones.
I will be getting impression soon. I did stick them in my mouf
@thebeetle I have digital calipers
Can’t you do any of this?
Good stuff…who is your doctor?
How does this differ from MSE?
Nope, 0 change. inb4 “ur doin it rong!”
Nosejob and chin implant / chin augmentation / chin surgery for starters. You can try fillers for chin.
Does anyone know who treated Varbrah? Where can I find more info on his latest results? Any before-after pictures? Kindly share if you have!
Actually yeah…whatever happened to Varbrah??? Anyone know?
If there are doubts of maxillary suture split with MSE expander why wouldn’t this be used to guarantee seperation?
Yes, I was told 40-60% success rate in people over 30 I believe.
I acquired that info from an actual doctor partitioning MSE who was taught by Von Moon, not from the UCLA guy. I will do my best to consult with all p…
Bumping this. We need as much information on this as possible. From what I understand that success cases in adults are limited and the device fails to…
Yeah, FAGGA is not Holy Grail. I’m going to make a new thread focused on MSE+Facemask.
Literally what Ronald Ead will be undergoing:
I’m inquiring, because it seems to me that it is the only thing that could legitimately help me, even if the success rate is not that high, it might b…
Sorry, this is anti-vaxxer tier paranoia conspiracy theory BS. I don’t buy the whole “LE DOCTORS WANT YOU TO GET CANCER” argument. Can someone with a …
Wow, that is a big disappointment, since my whole maxilla is the biggest problem. Wouldn’t face mask pull the whole maxilla forward?
Ok, so we know that AGGA works to bring maxilla forward. Not much, but still a big deal. We know that MSE expanders can WIDEN the maxilla in adults. S…
His issue with teeth not aligning after AGGA – can’t that simply be fixed with braces tilting the teeth? My biggest facial flaw is flat/sunk midface…
So does his mean FAGGA is bs as well?If so, what current methods are proven not to be bs?
The weight of claiming lies on people who claim for fact of something existing. So for those claiming mewing works, they bear the weight of proving …
If this is true, then that is really lame. I expected more of this forum. Censorship hearing something that goes against your narrative is COWARDLY.UC…
Moving away from books is GOOD, don’t get me wrong. I think that challenging new and old ideas is important, so heated debates are excellent and in th…
I completely agree to UCLANewbie that doing DIY facial procedures like facemasks is not smart. Even with medical professionals a lot of this is risk…
Before and after pics please! Which doctor are you visiting?
No, my ortho said expansion will tip my teeth and I’m yet to find an orthodontist who could achieve what I want without messing up my face. UCLANewbie…
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