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@char My AGGA case also failed, due to relapse and a number of complications. My case turned out similar to the ones discussed in this video.
My AGGA case has failed due to relapse, lack of maxillary growth of any sort, and complications. My outcome was similar to the failed cases in this vi…
There’s a site that explores this theory in depth:
If you have significant crowding, you may not have room to do proper tongue posture. An appliance would fix this. AGGA and Controlled Arch treatments …
This facepulling project seems to have a current website here, and it has a contact page.
I’ve been using a vibration tool, red/infrared light therapy while in AGGA. I see no evidence that they have accomplished anything, because my growth …
I don’t know because I am not an expert, but I’ve heard of multiple other people refer to risks, including my osteopath. She has seen a MARPE case whe…
@entelechy I was not aware of MSE when I started FAGGA, or I would have considered it. I am currently doing ENT procedures try to resolve my nasal obs…
AGGA has its limitations. So it’s not realistic to plan treatment by deciding the Mew Indicator Line you want, or the amount of the growth you want, a…
The 2mm gum recession does bother me, but I am waiting to see if it improves once my premolars are pulled up during Controlled Arch. The biggest reces…
I’m holding off on releasing photos until my case is finished. My profile is going to look weak-chinned until my mandibular incisors are retracted, wh…
Yes, I have a LVI dentist. My Mew Indicator Line definitely changed, but I’m not sure how much because I need to find what my pre-AGGA Mew Indicator L…
Wide nasolabial angle, retroclined incisors. And yes, extractions could mean underdeveloped alveolar ridge.
In that picture you see, I had around 4mm gaps. What I have learned from treatment is that the AGGA gaps and forward growth are not the same thing, du…
I held my mandible forward, and sometime I would slide it on a plastic wafer. The molar pads disocclude the teeth allowing the mandible to come forwar…
Yes, this is a correct understanding. Note that dentists who use AGGA primarily position themselves as treating TMD. The tips of my upper incisors mov…
Yes, AGGA is misadvertised, and especially people coming from a Mewing background will have excessive expectations about possible change to the maxill…
I am also considering septoplasty and looking for other people’s experiences.
Sure, from an aesthetic standpoint you can get paranasal implants. I am following Ronald Ead’s MSE/facemask case with interest. It’s possible that the…
@entelechy, I don’t know much about the capabilities of archwire vs AGGA. Archwire sounds like it would be fine to procline maxillary incisors. This a…
Allow me to explain what is going on in this before/after comparison. First, this is a shamefully bad before/after comparison because the angle isn’t …
In setting your expectations, note that AGGA is a treatment for the lower third of the face, and it has never been proven to change the skeletal maxil…
I am in treatment with AGGA so I can address the question of what happened to the mandible. With 8mm gaps, 8 months, and 1 month rest, my chin came fo…
I had AGGA for 8 months during which time I was Mewing. I have my CBCT before/after and I know how to view them. I see zero changes to my antegonial n…
After my surgical tongue tie release, the back of the tongue was tethered for me for a couple weeks. Not sure what the healing process is supposed to …
What is the evidence that high meat contains higher K2?
These results do not make sense, unless you are still not fully healed. Have you been doing myofunctional therapy to exercise the tongue? If you don’t…
This video keeps being cited as evidence for Mewing for some reason, which is very strange because this is a case using the Homeoblock appliance, not …
This case is Tom Colquitt, who had the Homeoblock appliance (story here). This is not a result from Mewing alone.
@skinnyboiii, I want to specifically address the subject of the chin. This post by Abdulrahman shows that the point of the chin has grown relative to …
@progress OK, I see that someone who is a big believer in adult Mewing could be expecting a case with results as large as this to eventually show up. …
Here’s what I am seeing: Ronald show big changes to lip support and nasolabial angle. But the case in this thread does not show those changes. Instead…
A key principle in Bayesian reasoning is that the likelihood of an occurrence depends not only on the strength of the evidence for it, but on the init…
His first after photo looks plausibly created by Mewing plus jutting his mandible forward. His second update looks really suspicious, especially the c…
What makes you say this? His nasolabial angle has improved which implies some forward movement.
There is a lot of discussion of FAGGA in the thread, but less discussion of Controlled Arch Braces, the phase following FAGGA in treatment. Controlled…
It seems that some of the difficulty in this thread is quantifying aesthetic changes. I have been thinking about this a lot going through FAGGA and se…
@mscottxy, thanks for posting your results, and I agree that they look similar to what FAGGA would achieve. It’s true that FAGGA does not protract the…
It looks like Mike Mew’s jaws are grown further forward than the top of his skeletal maxilla, giving him hollowness in his cheeks next to his nose and…
I just made a new thread about ancient skull reconstructions to answer this.
AGGA gives a lot of tongue space. For someone like me who’s biggest problem is lack of forward growth, AGGA helped me a lot. Myofunctional therapy got…
Posture improved, breathing slightly improved during day (but I was already nose-breathing), and no improvements to sleep yet (I have UARS which is my…
FAGGA has moved my chin forward. I am starting to have a defined jawline instead of my mandible being stuck in my neck. Read @abdulrahman’s post, look…
FAGGA absolutely “works” for improving the lower third of the face. Does FAGGA create growth? The answer to that question depends on which part of the…
Remember everyone that this is mid-treatment might only be 5mm growth. She still has molar pads lengthening her face. The widening hasn’t even happene…
This post shows the difficulty of Mewing when there is a lack of anterior space. The problem I had when I started was that if I put the tip on the spo…
8mm suggested by your dentist is a lot, so he must have strong reasons for recommending that. You could ask him to explain where that number comes fro…
Great post… one thing to add is that many people will have trouble placing the facial plane when the head is tilted. The Frankfort plane can be used…
Has your dentist done a CBCT scan yet? By comparing the scan with population norms, your dentist can try to figure out how much the mandible is held b…
Which were the FAGGA practitioners that you saw? I considered ALF, but it seemed really slow and I was unsure of whether it would give me enough sag…
Everyone considering cod liver oil needs to do their research on the criticisms of “fermented” cod liver oil products, which are likely rancid and hig…
This matches what I have heard. I asked my osteopath about MARPE/MSE (she has lots of patients with appliances), and she said that it causes most of t…
I used feeler gauges to measure the gaps. So the actual forward growth of the maxilla in profile may be <4mm. Haven’t done another CBCT yet to chec…
Here is a graphic showing my AGGA progress at 4 months with 3.9mm gaps (updated: deleted due to being outdated). I took photos with a white background…
Here is a very basic topic that I run into with my friends: Why is the maxilla so important relative to the mandible? People have a bias where they pe…
Here’s another question: Does the DNA appliance require monthly adjustments like AGGA and most other appliances?
It definitely sounds correct that each expander addresses some aspect of the problem. Unclear whether the mechanism is epigenetic, or whether the DNA …
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