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RE: 32M, MSE, class III malocclusion with a recessed jaw?!

Wow that seems super fast. I’m almost 30 and my ortho said it may take 4-5 weeks. Only on turn 10, fingers crossed for a split.

11 months ago
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RE: 32M, MSE, class III malocclusion with a recessed jaw?!

@Apollo how many turns did it take you to split? Did you get corticopuncture?

11 months ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Journey

I’m on the cusp of 30 and getting MSE in a few days. All I’ll say is I would pay good money to be able to rewind the clock and get MSE at 19. At my …

11 months ago
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RE: Possibly new “holy grail” for moving the maxilla up and forwards? [MSE + Facemask Therapy]

@apollo ah got it – overall that’s good to hear MSE was successful at least!

1 year ago
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RE: Possibly new “holy grail” for moving the maxilla up and forwards? [MSE + Facemask Therapy]

@apollo got it, sorry to hear you had limited success. What options are you pursuing now?

1 year ago
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RE: Possibly new “holy grail” for moving the maxilla up and forwards? [MSE + Facemask Therapy]

@apollo somewhere in this forum I think you mentioned you’re in your 30’s and had a successful MSE. Quick question – did you do any mewing before you…

1 year ago
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RE: Is 29 years old too late for MSE? (Male)

Can you link to any examples of people in their 40’s achieving suture splits with tongue alone? That’s amazing. I’ve been religiously correcting ort…

1 year ago
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RE: Is 29 years old too late for MSE? (Male)

After making this post, I got a consultation with a leading MSE doctor and they did say that success rates start dropping in the late 20’s. So that’s…

1 year ago
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RE: Mewing ruined my face – HELP

I think it’s highly unlikely you actually caused any meaningful change in 1 month – good or bad. The “differences” you’re seeing in those pictures ar…

2 years ago
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RE: 13 months Mewing – aged 34 **(20 Month Update)

If nothing else, your improved tongue posture has reduced the bulge under your chin. Great work.

2 years ago
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RE: Help with Tongue Tie

Contact Dr. Zaghi at the Breathe Institute to see if he can refer you to anyone. He’s the most knowledgeable doc in the frenectomy field. His surge…

2 years ago
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RE: Anyone doing what AGGA is doing but with their tongue?

@Progress that’s what I’ve come to realize as well. That position gives the tongue more traction to provide forward forces, almost like a “grip.”

2 years ago
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RE: Anyone doing what AGGA is doing but with their tongue?

Makes sense. Have you personally seen any forward growth?

2 years ago
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RE: Anyone doing what AGGA is doing but with their tongue?

@sinned I wonder if going “slower” by just using the tongue will prevent those gaps from forming.

2 years ago
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RE: Let’s all argue about whether MSE is better than DNA

@greyham how’s DNA working out for you so far? I remember you posted about a blog somewhere – have you updated it recently, and what was the link?

2 years ago
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RE: The dangers of hard mewing

Michale Chatham, whose insane results can be seen at the very bottom of this blog, has said somewhere that proper tongue posture should be a soft suct…

2 years ago
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RE: 13 months Mewing – aged 34 **(20 Month Update)

@mewtated sounds a lot like me. If you have a tongue tie, you’re probably not making optimal progress as it takes too much effort to get your tongue…

2 years ago
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RE: 13 months Mewing – aged 34 **(20 Month Update)

Have you been evaluated for a tongue tie?

2 years ago
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RE: almost 3 years of mewing update

Have you been evaluated for a tongue tie? I started this journey in 2017 and only 2 months ago was diagnosed with a tongue tie when I went to a DNA…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@progress thanks! Also of note, I believe Michale has dropped in to this forum before (can’t find the thread now) where she has said her results came …

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

After consulting with two DNA-approved dentists, I’ve decided to get a frenectomy before thinking about getting DNA. Even if I got the DNA, I feel li…

2 years ago
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RE: Gather questions for DNA appliance

@toomer Yeah I appreciate everything you’ve typed. I’m in the same boat, on the verge of pulling the trigger and feverishly researching. My worst fe…

2 years ago
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RE: Gather questions for DNA appliance

@toomer this is a way better explanation than the one I got at my patient education session. They should hire you to do it. The only thing that bot…

2 years ago
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RE: DNA Appliance Thread

@Thomas22 thank you for creating this thread and sharing your experience. I’m considering doing DNA. My consultations have said that I have a decen…

2 years ago
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RE: Deep Breathing effects on the spine and muscles

@WrongNotes super interesting, I’m going to try jogging. Mouth taping at night has drastically expanded my nasal breathing capabilities but like you…

2 years ago
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RE: has anyone seen results from mouth taping?

Its impact on retraining your subconscious is tremendous. Teeth in light contact + mouth taping is an effective combo.

2 years ago
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RE: How to “really” move maxilla up and foward?

@chiefkeefsosa ah ok, my bad then I got @progress’ start date mixed up with someone else’s. Yes I’ve been at it for 3 years and actually don’t consi…

2 years ago
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RE: How to “really” move maxilla up and foward?

@progress super informative, thanks for sharing! @chiefkeefsosa because there’s an actual measurable result (IMW) that almost certainly can’t be fak…

2 years ago
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RE: How to “really” move maxilla up and foward?

In my opinion the most promising/believable change I’ve seen so far is @progress, who if he’s to be believed, has successfully increased IMW over the …

2 years ago
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RE: Conclusions after a year and 4 months of reading this forum and practicing mewing

Keep in mind most people who learned mewing from the internet are likely not mewing correctly. The learning curve is huge, both in getting the techn…

2 years ago
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RE: John Mew saying mewing won’t work after 25

Wait, so is Mew basically walking back what his dad says in that statement, @TGW? Sounds like he’s saying the average person won’t be able to do any…

3 years ago
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RE: Alternative Dental Hygiene and Remineralizing Teeth

Anyone have experience with xylitol/erythritol? Xylitol is taught to all dentists in school but for some reason it’s rarely recommended in practice …

3 years ago
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RE: John Mew saying mewing won’t work after 25

@Elwynn well said. It’s taken me 3 years to get to where I’m at, and I’m still continuously realizing my tongue isn’t deep enough. Did I make any a…

3 years ago
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RE: John Mew saying mewing won’t work after 25

@PolHolmes I agree with you, which is why I think true results on Orthotropic forums are rare. Most simply don’t have the dedication/discipline to bu…

3 years ago
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RE: John Mew saying mewing won’t work after 25

I mean, this isn’t really new information. I think it’s widely accepted that “soft mewing” after puberty will probably be minimally effective if at a…

3 years ago
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RE: Great results found on reddit!!

@Azrael what’s his insta?

3 years ago
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RE: Suction hold & effortless mewing in sleep

Mouth taping has completely retrained my default position to be mouth closed, tongue up. Takes a couple of months but it’s extremely effective.

3 years ago
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RE: Having teeth In contact for recessed jaw.

@elwynn when you say “lip seal” do you also mean “lip suction” as in you’re gently sucking your lips against your teeth?

3 years ago
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RE: 2 years of “mewing” and my intermolar width went from 37mm to 36.1mm

I do admit after re-reading my posts that it feels like I keep moving the goalpost. My fault on lack of clarity. My final point in this is that to me…

3 years ago
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RE: 2 years of “mewing” and my intermolar width went from 37mm to 36.1mm

It’s not an excuse, it’s the reality. Statistically most people who are trying to mew are overwhelmingly likely to be doing it wrong, because most pe…

3 years ago
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RE: 2 years of “mewing” and my intermolar width went from 37mm to 36.1mm

@Elwynn agreed, it’s not about knowledge it’s about building mind-body awareness which is a long, labor-intensive process. Of course, the most effic…

3 years ago
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RE: 2 years of “mewing” and my intermolar width went from 37mm to 36.1mm

Going to be that guy – I highly doubt you were doing it right. The fact that you think being on these forums for 3 years and watching mewing videos me…

3 years ago
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3 years ago
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RE: 3 month expansion tongue only

Can you share more about your routine? Do you push outwards against the teeth with your tongue?

3 years ago
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RE: How to have teeth in contact during sleep?

@Loliboly no I mean I have it in contact all the time, even when sleeping. As for walks, it’s hard to explain, but go for a 1 mile walk every day thi…

3 years ago
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RE: Is hardmewing legit?

Depends on what your goal is. If it’s to retrain your tongue posture, I think it can help strengthen your tongue. If it’s for maxilla upswing, recen…

3 years ago
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RE: How to have teeth in contact during sleep?

Everyone’s case is different. Teeth in contact has been a game changer for me in terms of my head posture. When my molars are touching, my head post…

3 years ago
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RE: Why mewing doesn’t work

@EddieMoney ah got it, yes that makes a lot of sense.

3 years ago
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RE: Why mewing doesn’t work

How would you say “tongue ballooning” is different from pushing up/sideways? Those are the only ways to push, correct?

3 years ago
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RE: Mouth taping

Mouth tape at certain times during the day and 1 hour before bed time. It’ll help you reprogram your subconscious so that the tape at night is just a…

3 years ago
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RE: 2 year update

What are you trying to “get out of” mewing? Seems like your maxilla is already in a good position (could be wrong on this). Are your teeth straight?

3 years ago
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RE: 18 Months of Progress

Did you push outwards with your tongue against your molars to widen the palate?

3 years ago
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RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla

@alphaminus you’re right that it lacks context, but I’m not sure how that makes it useless? This whole field is in the hypothesis/experimentation stag…

3 years ago
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture

@progress anecdotal bit to add to what you said about molars touching and head posture – when my teeth are in contact/molars are touching, my head pos…

3 years ago
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RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla

@Progress thanks! I should know by now that everything potentially valuable comes from here and not Reddit haha. The Reddit forum is a mess, but it d…

3 years ago
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