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Suction does not rotate the maxilla imo
By facegettingworseandworse, 2 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| If the tongue tip is for pushing and the back third is for suction, how would that maintain a balanced maxilla angle? It makes no sense to me. It makes more sense that the posterior third is supposed ... | ||
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RE: Male vs Female- Who has the most counter clockwise maxilla?
By facegettingworseandworse, 4 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| bumping to see if this gets any more replies will suction of the back third cause the molars to go up or down? It feels like pressure on the front palete causes upper incisors to go down not up. Paleo... | ||
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RE: 2 year update
By RamonT, 7 hours ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| @gubbbb, Do you feel poppings and pulsating/vibrating movements while mewing? do you hard mew or active mew?. I ask because I'm 55 and I'm constantly getting them, through my whole head and neck, I ... | ||
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RE: I'm not sure if mewing works anymore
By RamonT, 11 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @daltira That’s because nobody knows wat the fuck is actually going’s on. Forwards growth is achieved by teeth contact. NOT tongue. You need to stand in a chin tuck posture at all times a... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 15 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I’ve reproduced my ”before”-pictures, taken with a DSLR by using identical settings and carefully positioning my head the same way in the frame by using a remote shooting application and an overlay vi... | ||
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RE: I'm not sure if mewing works anymore
By EddieMoney, 16 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @daltira That’s because nobody knows wat the fuck is actually going’s on. Forwards growth is achieved by teeth contact. NOT tongue. You need to stand in a chin tuck posture at all times a... | ||
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RE: Deep bite
By EddieMoney, 16 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @zenchy I have a deep bite, there are no myofunctional therapists, orthotropic therapists or even myobrace distributors in my area. I do not want to get braces as they hinder facial growth... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By EddieMoney, 16 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @noises Posted by: @eddiemoney Regarding the Forehead, forehead form can't be changed once proper neck position is assumed. The left convex profile looks like a female due to the forehe... | ||
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Observation on suction hold
By Soulrack, 19 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Dr. Mike Mew recommends using an intraoral vacuum to hold the tongue against the palate which is done by swallowing and getting the tongue to stick to the roof. I have observed recently that doing so ... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 22 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @eddiemoney Regarding the Forehead, forehead form can't be changed once proper neck position is assumed. The left convex profile looks like a female due to the forehead shape. But that in ... | ||
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RE: LA people! Have you had any experience with Dr Hang at Face Focused?
By spidey, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Hi there. I have met with Dr. Hang for a consultation. I had a bunch of measurements done and before photos taken. His attitude is that he can not do much for adults in terms of changing appearance, b... | ||
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RE: Male vs Female- Who has the most counter clockwise maxilla?
By EddieMoney, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I have never seen any consistent tendency. Women have overbites (CW rotation) as often as men do. But as was said by @Captain Horatio Hornblower a forward maxilla is more feminine since women's faces ... | ||
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LA people! Have you had any experience with Dr Hang at Face Focused?
By vividmind, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Am considering setting up an appointment with him and would like to hear if anyone has had any experience at his clinic. | ||
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RE: Nasal Airway Blockage While Mewing
By MewCultist, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @horatio Yikes, I'll keep at it then and hopefully by a year it's cleared up. Though could you elaborate a little more? Was your airway well enough to begin with to where you could do it properly whil... | ||
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RE: 28 year old reversing extraction orthodontics
By vividmind, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| Very cool mewology! I am considering reversing extraction orthodontics. I've had 7 teeth pulled (ouch!) and ever since I had 5 teeth pulled in the past two years my face has not been the same. Glad to... | ||
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RE: Male vs Female- Who has the most counter clockwise maxilla?
By facegettingworseandworse, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @horatio Thanks for bringing that up. My understanding is that forward maxilla are more clockwise rotated. So that would line up with what I said in the OP Might be wrong, but I think men naturally h... | ||
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RE: Male vs Female- Who has the most counter clockwise maxilla?
By Captain Horatio Hornblower, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| A very forward grown maxilla is actually a feminine trait and also more ideal in women. Men have longer lower thirds due to larger jaw size and teeth. Funny , the other day I was also thinking about t... | ||
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RE: Is there such a thing as a phenotypically long midface?
By Captain Horatio Hornblower, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @eddiemoney Yes, I see your point. That's probably why someone like George Clooney is never mistaken for a Southern European despite his dark colouring. He has a short nose and a long philtrum, typica... | ||
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RE: Is there such a thing as a phenotypically long midface?
By EddieMoney, 1 day ago |
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| Posted by: @horatio @eddiemoney On average, correct, but it's kind of a common belief that Caucasians have a longer nose the further south you go. The stereotypical nordic has hooded light eyes, a st... | ||
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Male vs Female- Who has the most counter clockwise maxilla?
By facegettingworseandworse, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| If a counterclockwise maxilla rotation increases lower facial hight on a man, does this mean that men naturally have more counterclockwise maxillas? Progress mentioned that tilting the head up slight... | ||
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RE: Is there such a thing as a phenotypically long midface?
By Captain Horatio Hornblower, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @eddiemoney On average, correct, but it's kind of a common belief that Caucasians have a longer nose the further south you go. The stereotypical nordic has hooded light eyes, a strong chin, thin lips ... | ||
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List of MSE providers?
By dezertfox27, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Does anyone know of MSE providers in Dallas or Texas in general? I can't find any on google. Please let me know if you know of any. Thanks! | ||
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Interesting video of cat born without ability to retract it's tongue
By sinned, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| You can see something's off about the cat's face, it's lacking eye support and looks recessed. | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By EddieMoney, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @noises I updated the OP a bit. @EddieMoney You know, that got me thinking. Check this out, what if concave profiles (certain ones anyway) are the result of the tongue pulling too much in ... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| See how the vomer bone is shaped antagonistically to the CCW torque I proposed. This bone will prevent excessive rotation of both the neurocranium and maxilla, as well as fulfill a stabilizing role wh... | ||
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RE: Is there such a thing as a phenotypically long midface?
By EddieMoney, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| African face: vertically short maxilla, shorter midface (eyes spaced further, nose shorter), face narrow and hyperdivergent (tendency to more open bite) European face: vertically short maxilla, longer... | ||
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Is there such a thing as a phenotypically long midface?
By Captain Horatio Hornblower, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I would say my worst feature is my vertically long nose , I doubt mewing can save me but I was wondering if it was in my genes to develop a long midface or if it was CFD. Every sibling of my mother ei... | ||
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RE: 5 Months Of Mewing Before and After pics
By gewgerg, 2 days ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| chin shortening is all I see | ||
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Mandible not moving - any thoughts? Is it even possible?
By gewgerg, 2 days ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| I'm 16 y/o and have been mewing for 1 year (approx). I've seen good cheekbone increase (noticeable to the point where people comment) but the mandible hasn't shifted 1mm. My ramus is too short and I c... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I updated the OP a bit. @EddieMoney You know, that got me thinking. Check this out, what if concave profiles (certain ones anyway) are the result of the tongue pulling too much in relation to the ante... | ||
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RE: Nasal Airway Blockage While Mewing
By Captain Horatio Hornblower, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| It took me almost one year of mewing to completely liberate my nasal airways. I know because I used to meditate from time to time and I remember being surprised at how my nose felt blocked despite mew... | ||
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Nasal Airway Blockage While Mewing
By MewCultist, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I recently learned that when mewing, I've been failing to raise the root of the tongue and instead was only keeping the middle and tip portions pressed up. This is mostly because as my basis I was usi... | ||
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Canted smile or just recessed?
By captainT, 2 days ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| Tl;dr - Poor posture all of life, mild scoliosis, head leaning, one side of face blown out (my right) and the other droopy (my left) ((as per Progress' post on scoliosis.)) - Doing a bunch of youtube ... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By Sean2019, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Why should teeth be in light contact instead of hard or moderate contact? What are the actual dangers of clenching, aside from cracking or bone loss? The periodontal membrane is 1/8mm thick. Typical r... | ||
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Deep bite
By Zenchy, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I have a deep bite, there are no myofunctional therapists, orthotropic therapists or even myobrace distributors in my area. I do not want to get braces as they hinder facial growth and can further rec... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By Apollo, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| In addition to my own question posted above, here are the submissions from others that I was most interested in from the previous unanswered Q&A ( ). Posted by: @Progress Many adults seem to ha... | ||
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RE: Do chisell, jawliner and jawzrsize work?
By AliMew, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @alimew Does anyone know any Chinese replicas of them? They feel waaaaay to expensive for what they are. Bump, are there no replicas at all? | ||
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RE: Top palate expander
By ShaktiOm, 2 days ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| @johncoolj From what I've heard and read, the bottom automatically expands as the top palate expands. So only a top palate expander is needed. | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By ShaktiOm, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| How long should a child be breast-fed? What kind of food do you suggest first introducing to a baby/toddler to encourage proper swallow function? What age? How old should a child be before you teach t... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By Apollo, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Since Dr. Mew never responded to the last round of questions, you might want to select some of the best submissions from this thread: I'd especially like to resubmit this question, which I'm still cu... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By EddieMoney, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @noises Oh I think I slightly misunderstood your post but still made relevant points since the premise is so simple. The way this lever system pulls the skull into tensile equilibrium shou... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Oh I think I slightly misunderstood your post but still made relevant points since the premise is so simple. The way this lever system pulls the skull into tensile equilibrium should be applicable to ... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By Pame, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @printfactory John Mew mentioned a case where a group of children who had a tonsillectomy as a result learnt to keep their mouths shut and breathe nasally. This caused their jaws to move forward 10mm ... | ||
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RE: What the consensus about that?
By Pame, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @EddieMoney Have you been unable to correct your forward head posture? Or is it a work in progress? Also, how does correcting head posture lead to clockwise rotation? | ||
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RE: What the consensus about that?
By EddieMoney, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I didn't experience CCW rotation myself as I am a Class 3 case. Flat occlusal plane, sunken midface, and narrow palate. My case requires initial clockwise rotation (fix forward head posture), followed... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By EddieMoney, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @noises The neurocranium doesn't necessarily change much, the idea is that in a properly developed skull this tension is at an equilibrium and nothing moves. If the neurocranium is in a go... | ||
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RE: Top palate expander
By Saiyan, 3 days ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| No you would have to expand both top and bottom with an appliance. Bite can be off if you don’t match the expansion. | ||
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RE: Top palate expander
By Saiyan, 3 days ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| No you would have to expand both top and bottom with an appliance. Bite can be off if you don’t match the expansion. | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By printfactory, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Happy to see another Q&A is happening. I wish we had more professionals (possibly anonymously if they are afraid of their reputation) engaging more actively in the discussions in this forum. He... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| The neurocranium doesn't necessarily change much, the idea is that in a properly developed skull this tension is at an equilibrium and nothing moves. If the neurocranium is in a good position/shape, t... | ||
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RE: What the consensus about that?
By facegettingworseandworse, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @eddiemoney Regarding the progress you have made, I assume your ogee curve is better with your counter clockwise maxilla rotation? Wider and more forward and/or illusion of being more forward due to i... | ||
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RE: 28 year old reversing extraction orthodontics
By Silberman, 3 days ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| Hello mewology, Thanks for a very interesting post, with an excellent description of the problem / diagnosis initially. Very encouraging what you have achieved. Your experience is similar to a part of... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By JawShrunk123, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Can I mew with a permanent retainer on upper 4 teeth and lower 6 front teeth and still get results? | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By EddieMoney, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| The cranium moving this way makes it more hypodivergent. But it will also require a chin tuck in order to rotate the neurocranium. | ||
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Teeth together when swallowing ? Is this neccesary
By Goblin_slayer, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Everywhere i look its mentioned teeth should clench when swallowing ? What is the point of this ?For me it feels wrong and weakens the force of swallowing | ||
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Deep bite
By Zenchy, 3 days ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| I have a deep bite, there are no myofunctional therapists, orthotropic therapists or even myobrace distributors in my area. I do not want to get braces as they hinder facial growth and can further rec... | ||
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RE: Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By TGW, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Reddit thread: | ||
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Mike and John Mew, New Q&A Bugaloo
By TGW, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Post below. The good stuff gets sent to Mike/John. I rely on our incredibly knowledgeable and helpful userbase to provide answers to those who post questions that have already been answered. This thre... | ||
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RE: Tongue posture as a pulling force rather than a pushing one
By noises, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| To illustrate my point a bit further, here's a video (somewhat NSFW) I've posted before. Check out from about 3:00 onward how the posterior tongue attaches to the visceral cylinder of the esophagus an... | ||
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RE: high meat for bone growth?
By Silberman, 4 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Facegettingworseanworse, As I pointed out to you further up this thread, the woman in the youtube lecture you refer to confirms that our ancestors were carnivores without herself realizing it. This h... | ||
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