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	RE: Crazy idea - How to breathe with recessed face. By Basim, 2 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	You cannot breathe properly and mew at the same time with a recessed face. As your airway too small and tongue being pushed into when you correct head posture and most likely have a vaulted palate as ...
	Discomfort when the root of the tongue is strained By bobmw64, 4 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	I have noticed that when I do something more than soft mewing with my tongue (for example, I try to expand the tongue in all directions as much as possible, or raise the tongue as much as possible fro...
	Crazy idea - How to breathe with recessed face. By Meowxilla, 4 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	When i mew with whole tongue i can't breathe. I just had an idea. What if i could insert a tube trough my nose trough which i can breath air. So my airway will be eventually pushed by tounge and i wo...
	RE: Struggling to mew because of Psychological reasons By vplatt, 7 hours ago	Youth Case Discussions
	The myobrace is supposed to help with proper tongue position and maybe having a routine of wearing an appliance would override the impulse to not do it?
	RE: does homeoblock expand the palate all the way to the molars? By vplatt, 7 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@skinny7 I agree with that. Also, the personality / service of the provider is important as @pizzaman500 mentioned. So far, I haven't figured out what to do for the TMD prior to palate expansion or if...
	RE: does homeoblock expand the palate all the way to the molars? By skinny7, 8 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@vplatt Regardless, I've been to a few of the top names for consulations. Guys/gals you see giving presentations and inventors of devices. I haven't gotten a consistent treatment plan. Bottom line is ...
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By Basim, 9 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@wellwellwell I understand from that persecptive. But even then, people who got surgery and still got relapse is because of lacking tongue posture and but more importantly establishing the habit of na...
	RE: Apart from mewing, what other facial exercises are recommended to push forward the zygomatic arch (develop cheekbones)? By mattwhmparr, 9 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Basically the same like everyone else. Wash, tone, moisturize. But what I use for a long time is a set from my dermatologist. I used to break out a lot. And those were not just pimples but cystic acne...
	RE: Alternative Dental Hygiene and Remineralizing Teeth By CoolHotio, 9 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	When I was young, I used a homemade paste made by my dentist. He never talked about its composition, which is sad, because I will never have such healthy teeth.
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By Wellwellwell, 10 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Basically what you do here is take the result and turn it into the cause. People with bad development do not close their mouth properly (what you call "improper nasal breathing"). This is not a cause ...
	RE: does myobrace move the mandible forward? By vplatt, 10 hours ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@cindystown thanks for sharing, that is helpful info. Especially because the provider quoted me 5K for the myobrace. I am emailing with Dr. Hang and he didn't specify which appliances but seemed to th...
	RE: best course of treatment for multiple issues By vplatt, 10 hours ago	Adult Case Discussions
	@sunflower that is interesting, I've never considered consulting with an ENT. Sounds like good advice you got there. My TMD is also only on one side and it isn't bad, but really flared up when I atte...
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By Basim, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@serbian No, it’s impossible to breathe through your mouth with your lips closed. I am referring to the mentalis muscle. That they are sealing their lips improperly because they are using the mentalis...
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By serbian, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @basim Posted by: @crimsonchin I have a hard time believing mouth breathing is as prevalent as some people try and suggest; I've never had a problem breathing through my nose and that h...
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By Basim, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @crimsonchin I have a hard time believing mouth breathing is as prevalent as some people try and suggest; I've never had a problem breathing through my nose and that hasn't changed in the ...
	RE: NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By CrimsonChin, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	I have a hard time believing mouth breathing is as prevalent as some people try and suggest; I've never had a problem breathing through my nose and that hasn't changed in the 5 years of various things...
	NASAL BREATHING IS THE ULTIMATE KEY TO MEWING (MUST READ)!!!!! By Basim, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Over the last few months, I have kept going back to myself of mewing and posture and it’s connection to the human body. But I have determined that NASAL BREATHING 24/7 SUBCONSCIOUSLY is the ultimate k...
	RE: does myobrace move the mandible forward? By Cindystown, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@vplatt I used it for six months and nothing changed, it felt like it’s about to give me tmj and it was frustrating sleeping with it, I’m considering buying a Schwartz or rme expander, the providers n...
	RE: best course of treatment for multiple issues By sunflower, 1 day ago	Adult Case Discussions
	Yep, me, 37/f with most of those issues although no crossbite and TMD is minimal and only on one side. My back airway is good, but my IMW is 31 mm, my tongue doesn't fit in my palate, and CBCT indicat...
	RE: Fix high arch maxilla with TADs By Wellwellwell, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Attachment:Screenshot_20210428-184731.png Here is an example.
	RE: does myobrace move the mandible forward? By vplatt, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@cindystown that is good to hear that it is a claim they make -- I couldn't even find that on the website. Maybe I didn't look enough. So are you using the myobrace now? is it the TMJ system?
	RE: what about pillows and nighttime neck / spine posture By vplatt, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@skinny7 I tried that but on my mattress, woke up with pronounced undereye circles (and I did it experimentally, testing and then using a pillow). So it seems the blood / lymph isn't flowing well with...
	RE: Mewing ruined my face - HELP By AscendingHero, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@str Bro I need wider set eyes, how did you do it? My eyes have grown closer to each other since the orthodontist extracted my teeth. Just have the orthodontist extract your premolars and see how your...
	RE: Reversing extractions with invisalign alone By mysterecessed, 1 day ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@recessedjawline Hey, may I ask how your expansion is going? I'm thinking of using invisalign to expand my arch as well as to fix my open bite on my left side. I haven't seen an orthodontist though, j...
	RE: does myobrace move the mandible forward? By Cindystown, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	I would like to know as well.. on various websites and the brochure I received with it, it does say that it does correct both ways and that mandible follows as the maxilla widens, but I’ve gotten mixe...
	RE: My journey to widen my maxilla without a orthodontist By skinny7, 2 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	Posted by: @danksch Since I'm also interested in Homeoblock treatment in Europe, I just contacted the clinic you mentioned (Lumi-Dent in Ukraine) regarding homeoblock treatment (it wasn't listed on t...
	RE: Negative consequences on forehead and chin from facemask back pressure By skinny7, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	I agree with the OP. The force is going to get transferred somewhere. I'd rather hook on to a big rubber band on something free standing than use a facemask.
	RE: what about pillows and nighttime neck / spine posture By skinny7, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@vplatt Personally I don't use a pillow back sleeping. It pushes my head farther forward. Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night and if I'm too stiff I'll put it in the side, or if I'm lyin...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By AscendingHero, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@apollo really appreciate your insights and thoughts. Indeed I think I need the mid sutural split to make sure I get the most out of it. He's never done cortipunctures I think so a great idea to pote...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @ascendinghero Btw had a talk with my ortho. Nothing 100% certain yet but I'm probably able to get MSE with the Bow and 2 miniplates somewhere on the sides for extra pull force. He actuall...
	RE: Mewing ruined my face - HELP By Wellwellwell, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	In none of your photos is your head angled the same way. Angles make a huge huge difference in photos. I believe that just like in cases where people post great results from mewing nothing changed in ...
	Fix high arch maxilla with TADs By Wellwellwell, 2 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	What's your opinion on the use of tads to treat vertical maxillary excess (VME) also known as long vaulted palate. It seems like more and more orthodontists are doing it. E.g @drstuartfrost instagra...
	RE: 28 Y.O male and my journey trying to fix my very high narrow palate so far. Need advice from someone who is well read in the field. Is my only option surgery? By Wellwellwell, 2 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	Have you taken a look at TADs to reduce the VME (Vertical Maxillary Excess)? The idea is to use the tads to push the whole dental arch upwards thus practically reducing the gummy smile. The results ar...
	RE: 21 years old, genioplasty and rhinoplasty candidate By vplatt, 2 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	@serbian I'm not really sure. Have you been able to consult with functional orthodontists for opinions (rather than only surgeons)?
	RE: SLDA may change occlusal plane By EbalVrot, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	What is SLDA?
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By AscendingHero, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@apollo I wouldn't know, maybe a bit of both. In any case everything in front of that gap, below the lefort cut, has to remodel to accomodate the protracted maxilla. Btw had a talk with my ortho. Not...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	An article called "Assessment of bone healing after Le Fort I osteotomy with 3-dimensional computed tomography" ( ) shows two class III cases immediately after LeFort I osteotomy and 1 year later: A...
	RE: 21 years old, genioplasty and rhinoplasty candidate By serbian, 3 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	Posted by: @vplatt @serbian I'm new-ish at this but I thought part of the point of many of these appliances is to move the jaw forward? like the maxilla moves forward and mandible follows.. and what ...
	RE: 21 years old, genioplasty and rhinoplasty candidate By vplatt, 3 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	@serbian I'm new-ish at this but I thought part of the point of many of these appliances is to move the jaw forward? like the maxilla moves forward and mandible follows.. and what about MSE? is your p...
	RE: does homeoblock expand the palate all the way to the molars? By vplatt, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@pizzaman500 I agree -- I'm going to consult with some functional orthodontists. It is hard to know beforehand because people can be great at sales and not service! Just from hearing about teeth tippi...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Attachment:Facial Form.gif The Mews and others talk about the sphenoid reshaping and remodeling during gradual treatment with tongue posture and/or removable appliances, making it difficult to superi...
	RE: does homeoblock expand the palate all the way to the molars? By pizzaman500, 3 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@vplatt I have UARS so airway is my biggest concern, but aesthetics are important too. Finding a provider is a hit or miss. I used to think that the appliance was the most important part in expanding ...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 4 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Attachment:pterygopalatine suture.jpg This article ( ) describes the pattern of separation at the pterygopalatine suture from the MSE appliance: "With regard to the pterygopalatine suture split, 84 ...
	RE: 21 years old, genioplasty and rhinoplasty candidate By serbian, 4 days ago	Adult Case Discussions
	Thanks for all the answers. Despite the recessed jaw, it doesn't seem however my bite is wrong. Hence, there's no way jaw surgery could improve anything in my lower face. Or I am wrong? I'm only acqua...
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By Apollo, 4 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @whyithink @ascendinghero Yeah it's nearly completely skeletal transverse expansion but I wasn't talking about that.I was trying to say any saggital movement from mse + facemask seems to c...
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By AscendingHero, 4 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@whyithink Yes I know. I was talking about sagital movement too.
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By racingagainsttime, 4 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@ascendinghero Yeah it's nearly completely skeletal transverse expansion but I wasn't talking about that.I was trying to say any saggital movement from mse + facemask seems to come from dental movemen...
	RE: MSE Providers In Europe - Any recommendations? By mr.mewing, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Netherlands (Geffen) friends4dents
	RE: MSE Providers In Europe - Any recommendations? By bluraccoon, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	I'm wondering; are there any in Turkey? There must be.
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By AscendingHero, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@whyithink Doesn't seem to be dental at all. If anything it seems to be the least dental out of all the appliance options for adults. The anchorage is actually in the pallette and they can even cute t...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Silver, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @apollo Posted by: @silver Why are we so sure we can't achieve the same or better with a completely untethered tongue (like what zaghimd.com is doing in LA) and the MSE on its own? Sure...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @silver Why are we so sure we can't achieve the same or better with a completely untethered tongue (like what zaghimd.com is doing in LA) and the MSE on its own? Surely, if mewing works, a...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Silver, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Why are we so sure we can't achieve the same or better with a completely untethered tongue (like what zaghimd.com is doing in LA) and the MSE on its own? Surely, if mewing works, and your tongue has i...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @ascendinghero @apollo Wow. Where do I sign up? Would be lovely to just be a recluse for 90 days and get those types of massive gains and forward growth. Lifechanging. You're talking abou...
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By racingagainsttime, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@ascendinghero I don't think MSE provides bone anchored protraction.If any protraction is gained it is probably nearly 100% dental not skeletal :/
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By AscendingHero, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@mr_man I would rather do MSE+ a well anchored facemask for 20 hours a day with 2kg+ of force for 3 months to gain 3mm than gain 4mm with a lefort. The MSE+FM will probably pull your upper maxilla for...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By AscendingHero, 5 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@apollo Wow. Where do I sign up? Would be lovely to just be a recluse for 90 days and get those types of massive gains and forward growth. Lifechanging.
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By AscendingHero, 6 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	@apollo Thanks for all the info. Looking forward to your end results.
	RE: It's been many years, as of 2021 what is currently the best ways to move maxilla forward? By theadonisking, 6 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @le_fort_or_bust Posted by: @mr-mewing how is it even possible that your upper jaw is so recessed and your mandible isn't? Are you referring to my scans? You will see that the gonial a...
	RE: MSE Asymmetry and Protraction By Apollo, 6 days ago	Main Forum - Correction Methods
	Posted by: @ascendinghero @apollo That’s amazing, and you mentioned you were basically alternating between expanding/contracting with the MSE correct? I read a case study in which they were pretty su...