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Can you mew with a pallet expander
By StuffedFrog, 2 mins ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Is it possible | ||
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RE: high arched palate reduced airflow
By TGW, 28 mins ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| You'll get marginal gains in nasal and throat airway with palate expansion. MSE creates the most nasal expansion of all the expansion techniques. DNA appliance is also quite effective and less invasiv... | ||
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RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla
By Bogdar, 35 mins ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| It was already a known fact as John Mew already mentionned it in one video. I can't remember whichone and what he exactly said but the information was like : The mandible, by exercing upward pressure ... | ||
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RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla
By Progress, 7 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| In order not to let Reddit steal all the glory, I'll just mention that this cap was originally posted by @qwerty135 in a discussion about tooth contact earlier this week. Sinned, eddiemoney and I shar... | ||
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John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla
By drunkwithcoffee, 8 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| From Reddit: If this screen grab is real, it seems to be another piece to add to the big picture of the teeth together concept. The other pieces I have so far are that people with bruxism seem to ha... | ||
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high arched palate reduced airflow
By puncher323, 11 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| i just read about how high arched palates lower the airflow so my question is can i lower my palate with mewing and if not is there another way? Edit: I consider a palate expender in order to expend m... | ||
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RE: Please make ABSOLUTELY SURE that you are mewing properly because you may be WASTING YOUR TIME AND PROGRESS. A warning from me.
By Blackfish, 12 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Oh man, I'm still so confused on this. I'm assuming my palate is too narrow, because the sides of my tongue are definitely over my molars when I do Na Na Na, or at least when I try and press the back ... | ||
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RE: How to measure IMW
By Kyte, 14 hours ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| Hi, using a caliper | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By RamonT, 15 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @ohwhatthehell You are missing the forest for the trees here. It's not relevant whether or not the muscles themselves are "pushing" or "pulling". The only thing that matters, so far as any... | ||
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RE: Homemade Maxillary Protractor V2.0
By ToothMan246, 15 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| This appliance is only expanding the upper arch. There needs to be a way for the lower teeth to follow, or else you could end up with a scissor bite. Maybe chewing tough gum for a chunk of the day cou... | ||
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How to measure IMW
By MaxillaryUpswing, 18 hours ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
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RE: Is my maxilla good enough?
By MaxillaryUpswing, 19 hours ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| @slinky 90* gonial angle looks comical, There is no ideal gonial angle universally. There is only whats ideal for your face and phenotype. | ||
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RE: 5 Months Of Mewing Before and After pics
By MaxillaryUpswing, 20 hours ago |
Youth Case Discussions |
| Midface definitely got shorter. Looks like FWHR has increased. Good job. Continue what you are doing! | ||
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Im looking for Orthotropic/ Functional Orthodontic Work, and Palate and Mandible Expansion as well as orthodontic appliances
By StuffedFrog, 22 hours ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| im currently trying to looks max i currently am buying a pallet ex pander and a myobrace i plan to buy a bio bloc but i have no idea where to get one so this forum is just to add appliances and orthod... | ||
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture
By Progress, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @sinned I understand your doubt. Personally, I am wary of the mainstream orthodontistry's advice against keeping the teeth together, since orthodontists tend to only witness the adverse effects of ext... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By auxiliary7, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @admin I've personally had much trouble with mewing when it was so simple all because I've read every single person say push. Why do you think adults have some kind of a undergrowth? To stimulate grow... | ||
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RE: Is my maxilla recessed? - Help in determining my problems
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| do a cephalometric analysis. Jefferson or Sassoumi | ||
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RE: Is my maxilla recessed?
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| to determine if your maxilla is recessed you should do a cephalometric analysis. Try the Jefferson analysis or Sassouni | ||
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RE: Progress Photos with Proper Tongue Posture
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| did you measure your intermolar width before and after? What was the difference? | ||
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can a cut as invasive as this for advanced long chin wing even heal properly?
By zygoarch, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| The surgeon that posts and advertises these cuts has always only posted 2 weeks to 3 months old results of the chin wing, never older then that, which is making me question if such a cut can even heal... | ||
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RE: Orthotropics Adult results
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| I can see his ears changed shape and he grew an Adams apple. | ||
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RE: Orthotropics Adult results
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Adult Case Discussions |
| @roflcopters You can't see any of that without stabilised profile x-rays | ||
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RE: No increase in intermolar width after 7 months of mewing, where to go from here?
By mscottxy, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I call bullshit on both mewing and especially thumbpulling IN ADULTS. You just can't sustain the level of pressure needed to effect any bone changes. I wore plates for 2.5 years creating premolar spac... | ||
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture
By johndoe1225, 1 day ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @eddiemoney Just to be clear I don't believe there is a standard mandible position solution for everyone. Some may need to touch, some may need to protract, some to retract (ha maybe), som... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @auxiliary7 thanks for responding. Just to clarify though. I don't understand what Ur theory is. Why is lightly doing it better than doing it with medium force? i'm talking about resting the front 2 t... | ||
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RE: Something going wrong
By Krel, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I world like to know on which side I should sleep, bite and where my tongue should be cause mewing "normally" seemed to have made things worse. What can I do to reduce the assymetry? | ||
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RE: Am I accidentally hypertrophying my buccinator muscle?
By mewerchewer, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @sinned So I've been chewing according to what you've said for some time and some additional questions pop in mind. 1) Maybe it's stupid but does it add more resistance if I chew more gum pieces at ... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By EddieMoney, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| This is why I never liked the term forward growth. It also explaines why people with very short faces (teeth close to nose) look recessed in profile. Ideally I think there is a point where the maxil... | ||
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture
By EddieMoney, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Just to be clear I don't believe there is a standard mandible position solution for everyone. Some may need to touch, some may need to protract, some to retract (ha maybe), some to lift up. I think a... | ||
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RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth
By EddieMoney, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Tl;dr version: women don't have better forward growth than men. They have a vertically shorter maxilla due to the fact their skull grows less in all directions. This shortens their Mew line and causes... | ||
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RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth
By EddieMoney, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Upswing mainly benefits women aesthetically more than it does men anyway. Women seem like they have better development because women naturally have shorter faces than men. This allows their chin to be... | ||
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RE: Obesity and palatal shape
By DrMario, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @oatmeal @mr.mewing It may very well be a combination of both. This is exactly why obese patients are at risk for sleep apnea. | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By xDJ, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @admin What about the "Mew push swallow" vids? Pt. 1 & 2 | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By TGW, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @auxiliary7 @admin Disagree fully. Read my full-post for comprehension. X-Rays show rotation and positional change, not growth, unless it's x-ray of a person going through puberty. Also si... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By Pame, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Posted by: @admin If sheer strength of the push resulted in growth, then facemasks would work on adults. The remodeling needs to be signalled (we're trying to figure out how to signal it), rather tha... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By auxiliary7, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @20_year_old_mewing How about you start mewing then? Rest mouth in neutral occlusion and just pull the sides of the mid/back tongue upwards. @ohwhatthehell It's not that simple, the pressure you feel ... | ||
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RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth
By printfactory, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| When I clench my teeth I can kind of hook my tongue behind the bony parts of the sphenoid that sick out of the palate (pterygoid hamulus?) and feel some pressure on the bridge of my nose and sometimes... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @admin then how can adults improve the angle of our maxilla? i find it amazing that we still don't know this in 2019. it's so frustrating cause our faces are here, we have time, money and dedication,... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @ohwhatthehell maxilla progress? | ||
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RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth
By Progress, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Here is something to consider. In the pic @qwerty135 shared in here John Mew explains how teeth contact, not the tongue, is the main facilitator of upswing, i.e. the movement that ultimately creates t... | ||
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RE: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again...
By Lian, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Well I guess I suggested the premaxilla because it’s my understanding that some people think that is the main area being worked on by things like Agga, and it seems like an easy way to try this theory... | ||
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RE: Lefort 3 osteotomy price?
By mscottxy, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @randommoses how did your meeting go? | ||
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RE: Lefort 3 osteotomy price?
By mscottxy, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @randommoses you realise all they've done to this girl is extract 4x teeth and pulled her lower jaw backwards. She now has a smaller oral space and compromised airway. Don't extract. | ||
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RE: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again...
By mscottxy, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| it's a fair point. I'm not sure there's enough volume in the premaxillary structure to have much of an overall impact. You'll end up with a small front section sticking out, then a 'step' in the arch ... | ||
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RE: What does facepulling do, that the tongue can't? Does it affect the midface? How long, how often and what should I do exactly?
By mscottxy, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| unless you're 'facepulling' more hours than you're not, don't bother. Any changes you make (and that's a dubious claim) will just move back overnight or when you're not 'pulling'. Sorry, but correct g... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By sinned, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @20_year_old_mewing If you're referring to the fact that MSE splits the suture, I'd argue that it's not necessary. While your suture splits giving you a diastema, this is because the forces required t... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @sinned check out the post i just made | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @sinned i don't think the tongue can do what mse does but i might be wrong | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By sinned, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @20_year_old_mewing What can an appliance do that the tongue can't? | ||
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Receding tongue leads to a receding maxilla?
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Stick out your tongue, the back of the mouth comes forward..... This could be why our maxilla's are recessing..... Lack of forward growth means you have to place the tongue BACK, resulting in the top... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @sinned yeah but tongue posture just maintains what you've already got.... (in terms of the maxilla). we are trying to actually upswing the maxilla here... that's what people are waiting on.... we're... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By sinned, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @printfactory Honestly I don't think facemasks would work effectively even if you do anchor them correctly, I agree with TGW that it's not just force that gives signals to grow. In my opinion, while l... | ||
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does a football helmet affect face shape?
By ds123, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I am curious as to if wearing a helmet could affect the growth. If it is only horizontal and vertical growth that is what needs to be taken care of then I am fine as the helmet doesn't push back on my... | ||
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RE: Something going wrong
By Krel, 2 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @auff So what can I do? +you said its bone related but talk about the tongue which is a muscular organ? Thanks for your help. | ||
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture
By sinned, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| @progress I decided to take a look back at the slides, you're right, there's definitely suggestions referring to occlusal feedback as teeth touching not just chewing. In my own experience, even though... | ||
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RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.
By ohwhatthehell, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| You are missing the forest for the trees here. It's not relevant whether or not the muscles themselves are "pushing" or "pulling". The only thing that matters, so far as anyone here is concerned, is t... | ||
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RE: Something going wrong
By auff, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| it is bone related. The problem is your right tongue is more stronger then the left so imbalance | ||
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RE: Something going wrong
By Krel, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Also is it bone related or muscular? | ||
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RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture
By EddieMoney, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| I am not 100% convinced on whether molars touching at rest is ideal yet. In the X rays above you can see both girls touch their molars but with very different outcomes. Personally I have always touche... | ||
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RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?
By printfactory, 3 days ago |
Main Forum - Correction Methods |
| Isn´t force a way to signal the bones to grow? Someone stated in this blog in the comments that the reason facemasks don´t work on adults is because you can´t really anchor them properly to the head. | ||
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