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StuffedFrog Can you mew with a pallet expander  

By StuffedFrog, 2 mins ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Is it possible
TGW RE: high arched palate reduced airflow  

By TGW, 28 mins ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  You'll get marginal gains in nasal and throat airway with palate expansion. MSE creates the most nasal expansion of all the expansion techniques. DNA appliance is also quite effective and less invasiv...
Bogdar RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla  

By Bogdar, 35 mins ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  It was already a known fact as John Mew already mentionned it in one video. I can't remember whichone and what he exactly said but the information was like : The mandible, by exercing upward pressure ...
Progress RE: John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla  

By Progress, 7 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  In order not to let Reddit steal all the glory, I'll just mention that this cap was originally posted by @qwerty135 in a discussion about tooth contact earlier this week. Sinned, eddiemoney and I shar...
drunkwithcoffee John Mew: teeth together causes upswing, tongue only widens the maxilla  

By drunkwithcoffee, 8 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  From Reddit: If this screen grab is real, it seems to be another piece to add to the big picture of the teeth together concept. The other pieces I have so far are that people with bruxism seem to ha...
puncher323 high arched palate reduced airflow  

By puncher323, 11 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  i just read about how high arched palates lower the airflow so my question is can i lower my palate with mewing and if not is there another way? Edit: I consider a palate expender in order to expend m...
Blackfish RE: Please make ABSOLUTELY SURE that you are mewing properly because you may be WASTING YOUR TIME AND PROGRESS. A warning from me.  

By Blackfish, 12 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Oh man, I'm still so confused on this. I'm assuming my palate is too narrow, because the sides of my tongue are definitely over my molars when I do Na Na Na, or at least when I try and press the back ...
Kyte RE: How to measure IMW  

By Kyte, 14 hours ago

Youth Case Discussions
  Hi, using a caliper
RamonT RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By RamonT, 15 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Posted by: @ohwhatthehell You are missing the forest for the trees here. It's not relevant whether or not the muscles themselves are "pushing" or "pulling". The only thing that matters, so far as any...
ToothMan246 RE: Homemade Maxillary Protractor V2.0  

By ToothMan246, 15 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  This appliance is only expanding the upper arch. There needs to be a way for the lower teeth to follow, or else you could end up with a scissor bite. Maybe chewing tough gum for a chunk of the day cou...
MaxillaryUpswing How to measure IMW  

By MaxillaryUpswing, 18 hours ago

Youth Case Discussions
  title
MaxillaryUpswing RE: Is my maxilla good enough?  

By MaxillaryUpswing, 19 hours ago

Youth Case Discussions
  @slinky 90* gonial angle looks comical, There is no ideal gonial angle universally. There is only whats ideal for your face and phenotype.
MaxillaryUpswing RE: 5 Months Of Mewing Before and After pics  

By MaxillaryUpswing, 20 hours ago

Youth Case Discussions
  Midface definitely got shorter. Looks like FWHR has increased. Good job. Continue what you are doing!
StuffedFrog Im looking for Orthotropic/ Functional Orthodontic Work, and Palate and Mandible Expansion as well as orthodontic appliances  

By StuffedFrog, 22 hours ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  im currently trying to looks max i currently am buying a pallet ex pander and a myobrace i plan to buy a bio bloc but i have no idea where to get one so this forum is just to add appliances and orthod...
Progress RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture  

By Progress, 1 day ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @sinned I understand your doubt. Personally, I am wary of the mainstream orthodontistry's advice against keeping the teeth together, since orthodontists tend to only witness the adverse effects of ext...
auxiliary7 RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By auxiliary7, 1 day ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @admin I've personally had much trouble with mewing when it was so simple all because I've read every single person say push. Why do you think adults have some kind of a undergrowth? To stimulate grow...
mscottxy RE: Is my maxilla recessed? - Help in determining my problems  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Adult Case Discussions
  do a cephalometric analysis. Jefferson or Sassoumi
mscottxy RE: Is my maxilla recessed?  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Adult Case Discussions
  to determine if your maxilla is recessed you should do a cephalometric analysis. Try the Jefferson analysis or Sassouni
mscottxy RE: Progress Photos with Proper Tongue Posture  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Adult Case Discussions
  did you measure your intermolar width before and after? What was the difference?
zygoarch can a cut as invasive as this for advanced long chin wing even heal properly?  

By zygoarch, 1 day ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  The surgeon that posts and advertises these cuts has always only posted 2 weeks to 3 months old results of the chin wing, never older then that, which is making me question if such a cut can even heal...
mscottxy RE: Orthotropics Adult results  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Adult Case Discussions
  I can see his ears changed shape and he grew an Adams apple.
mscottxy RE: Orthotropics Adult results  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Adult Case Discussions
  @roflcopters You can't see any of that without stabilised profile x-rays
mscottxy RE: No increase in intermolar width after 7 months of mewing, where to go from here?  

By mscottxy, 1 day ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  I call bullshit on both mewing and especially thumbpulling IN ADULTS. You just can't sustain the level of pressure needed to effect any bone changes. I wore plates for 2.5 years creating premolar spac...
johndoe1225 RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture  

By johndoe1225, 1 day ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Posted by: @eddiemoney Just to be clear I don't believe there is a standard mandible position solution for everyone. Some may need to touch, some may need to protract, some to retract (ha maybe), som...
20_year_old_mewing RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @auxiliary7 thanks for responding. Just to clarify though. I don't understand what Ur theory is. Why is lightly doing it better than doing it with medium force? i'm talking about resting the front 2 t...
Krel RE: Something going wrong  

By Krel, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  I world like to know on which side I should sleep, bite and where my tongue should be cause mewing "normally" seemed to have made things worse. What can I do to reduce the assymetry?
mewerchewer RE: Am I accidentally hypertrophying my buccinator muscle?  

By mewerchewer, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @sinned So I've been chewing according to what you've said for some time and some additional questions pop in mind. 1) Maybe it's stupid but does it add more resistance if I chew more gum pieces at ...
EddieMoney RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By EddieMoney, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  This is why I never liked the term forward growth. It also explaines why people with very short faces (teeth close to nose) look recessed in profile. Ideally I think there is a point where the maxil...
EddieMoney RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture  

By EddieMoney, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Just to be clear I don't believe there is a standard mandible position solution for everyone. Some may need to touch, some may need to protract, some to retract (ha maybe), some to lift up. I think a...
EddieMoney RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth  

By EddieMoney, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Tl;dr version: women don't have better forward growth than men. They have a vertically shorter maxilla due to the fact their skull grows less in all directions. This shortens their Mew line and causes...
EddieMoney RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth  

By EddieMoney, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Upswing mainly benefits women aesthetically more than it does men anyway. Women seem like they have better development because women naturally have shorter faces than men. This allows their chin to be...
DrMario RE: Obesity and palatal shape  

By DrMario, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @oatmeal @mr.mewing It may very well be a combination of both. This is exactly why obese patients are at risk for sleep apnea.
xDJ RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By xDJ, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @admin What about the "Mew push swallow" vids? Pt. 1 & 2
TGW RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By TGW, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Posted by: @auxiliary7 @admin Disagree fully. Read my full-post for comprehension. X-Rays show rotation and positional change, not growth, unless it's x-ray of a person going through puberty. Also si...
Pame RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By Pame, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Posted by: @admin If sheer strength of the push resulted in growth, then facemasks would work on adults. The remodeling needs to be signalled (we're trying to figure out how to signal it), rather tha...
auxiliary7 RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By auxiliary7, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @20_year_old_mewing How about you start mewing then? Rest mouth in neutral occlusion and just pull the sides of the mid/back tongue upwards. @ohwhatthehell It's not that simple, the pressure you feel ...
printfactory RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth  

By printfactory, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  When I clench my teeth I can kind of hook my tongue behind the bony parts of the sphenoid that sick out of the palate (pterygoid hamulus?) and feel some pressure on the bridge of my nose and sometimes...
20_year_old_mewing RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @admin then how can adults improve the angle of our maxilla? i find it amazing that we still don't know this in 2019. it's so frustrating cause our faces are here, we have time, money and dedication,...
20_year_old_mewing RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @ohwhatthehell maxilla progress?
Progress RE: [Discussion] Why so many young women nowadays with amazing jawlines | forward growth  

By Progress, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Here is something to consider. In the pic @qwerty135 shared in here John Mew explains how teeth contact, not the tongue, is the main facilitator of upswing, i.e. the movement that ultimately creates t...
Lian RE: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again...  

By Lian, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Well I guess I suggested the premaxilla because it’s my understanding that some people think that is the main area being worked on by things like Agga, and it seems like an easy way to try this theory...
mscottxy RE: Lefort 3 osteotomy price?  

By mscottxy, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @randommoses how did your meeting go?
mscottxy RE: Lefort 3 osteotomy price?  

By mscottxy, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @randommoses you realise all they've done to this girl is extract 4x teeth and pulled her lower jaw backwards. She now has a smaller oral space and compromised airway. Don't extract.
mscottxy RE: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again...  

By mscottxy, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  it's a fair point. I'm not sure there's enough volume in the premaxillary structure to have much of an overall impact. You'll end up with a small front section sticking out, then a 'step' in the arch ...
mscottxy RE: What does facepulling do, that the tongue can't? Does it affect the midface? How long, how often and what should I do exactly?  

By mscottxy, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  unless you're 'facepulling' more hours than you're not, don't bother. Any changes you make (and that's a dubious claim) will just move back overnight or when you're not 'pulling'. Sorry, but correct g...
sinned RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By sinned, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @20_year_old_mewing If you're referring to the fact that MSE splits the suture, I'd argue that it's not necessary. While your suture splits giving you a diastema, this is because the forces required t...
20_year_old_mewing RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @sinned check out the post i just made
20_year_old_mewing RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @sinned i don't think the tongue can do what mse does but i might be wrong
sinned RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By sinned, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @20_year_old_mewing What can an appliance do that the tongue can't?
20_year_old_mewing Receding tongue leads to a receding maxilla?  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Stick out your tongue, the back of the mouth comes forward..... This could be why our maxilla's are recessing..... Lack of forward growth means you have to place the tongue BACK, resulting in the top...
20_year_old_mewing RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By 20_year_old_mewing, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @sinned yeah but tongue posture just maintains what you've already got.... (in terms of the maxilla). we are trying to actually upswing the maxilla here... that's what people are waiting on.... we're...
sinned RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By sinned, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @printfactory Honestly I don't think facemasks would work effectively even if you do anchor them correctly, I agree with TGW that it's not just force that gives signals to grow. In my opinion, while l...
ds123 does a football helmet affect face shape?  

By ds123, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  I am curious as to if wearing a helmet could affect the growth. If it is only horizontal and vertical growth that is what needs to be taken care of then I am fine as the helmet doesn't push back on my...
Krel RE: Something going wrong  

By Krel, 2 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @auff So what can I do? +you said its bone related but talk about the tongue which is a muscular organ? Thanks for your help.
sinned RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture  

By sinned, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  @progress I decided to take a look back at the slides, you're right, there's definitely suggestions referring to occlusal feedback as teeth touching not just chewing. In my own experience, even though...
ohwhatthehell RE: The tongue can't possibly push, it can only get pulled.  

By ohwhatthehell, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  You are missing the forest for the trees here. It's not relevant whether or not the muscles themselves are "pushing" or "pulling". The only thing that matters, so far as anyone here is concerned, is t...
auff RE: Something going wrong  

By auff, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  it is bone related. The problem is your right tongue is more stronger then the left so imbalance
Krel RE: Something going wrong  

By Krel, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Also is it bone related or muscular?
EddieMoney RE: Why mandible position is essential in oral posture  

By EddieMoney, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  I am not 100% convinced on whether molars touching at rest is ideal yet. In the X rays above you can see both girls touch their molars but with very different outcomes. Personally I have always touche...
printfactory RE: Strengthening tongue by injecting steroids to improve mewing results?  

By printfactory, 3 days ago

Main Forum - Correction Methods
  Isn´t force a way to signal the bones to grow? Someone stated in this blog in the comments that the reason facemasks don´t work on adults is because you can´t really anchor them properly to the head.
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