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What are your thoughts on an expander like this? It has no contact with the teeth.

NatureRight
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I'm sure many of you will have visited this website and seen the pictures. But I haven't seen many people talking about or trying out an expander like this that does not touch the teeth like the usual acrylic expanders.

What are your thoughts on it? I'm thinking about getting one made. Surely it must be better than the usual acrylic expander that is attached to and touches teeth. The bad thing I can think about it is that it might fall out because it's not attached to the teeth, but it shouldn't because it should be up there pretty tight.

https://www.facepulling.com/reverse-pull-headgear-for-adults/

Someone over at the looksmax.me forum was inspired to create his own version just for use with facepulling and not expansion. I've attached his version to this thread (pink one).

https://looksmax.me/threads/how-to-pull-your-maxilla-forward-definitive-guide.45691/ -- attachment is not available --

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Topic starter Posted : 06/01/2020 1:07 pm
Apollo
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NatureRight
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@apollo

Oh i'm sorry. I didn't realise it was talked about already. Why was making the mouthpiece challenging for you? I'm thinking about getting a lab to make it with just the front wire in case i decide to face pull. If you were me.. which would you buy?.. a standard acrylic expander where I can shave bits off or the one in the pictures above that has no contact with the teeth?

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Topic starter Posted : 06/01/2020 3:28 pm
Apollo
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Posted by: @natureright

Oh i'm sorry. I didn't realise it was talked about already. Why was making the mouthpiece challenging for you? I'm thinking about getting a lab to make it with just the front wire in case i decide to face pull. If you were me.. which would you buy?.. a standard acrylic expander where I can shave bits off or the one in the pictures above that has no contact with the teeth?

A lab here in the United States wouldn't agree to make a custom appliance like that for anyone without a prescription from a dentist/orthodontist. Maybe in other countries they would. I might have been able to DIY my own, but I started to doubt that it would achieve what I wanted even if I put in the effort to make it. So, I can't really recommend self treatment with either of the appliances you're considering. Of course I could be wrong, but as I said in the other thread, I don't think either of the original sources have reported remarkable results. Let us know if you try it yourself!

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Posted : 06/01/2020 4:11 pm
NatureRight
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@apollo

Thanks! I think I should be able to get it done. However, I'm just looking at how the acrylic goes behind the back upper teeth. When feeling behind my upper wisdom teeth there is hardly any space at all. Just tiny bit of gum. I wonder if the acrylic will fit. I did previously use a normal acrylic expander but I broke it by stepping on it by mistake. So careless of me. With the previous expander I created a slight gap between my teeth, could feel tingling in my cheekbones and i'm sure they had widened slightly. I have not had a gap between my teeth and tingling in the cheekbones after not wearing the palate expander and just using my tongue. I believe it is extremely difficult to get results using the tongue alone as a grown adult.

I don't wanna go wasting money asking them to create the expander as in the photo above if it doesn't fit properly. Hmm...

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Topic starter Posted : 06/01/2020 7:11 pm