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Strong chin = bad forward growth

Hope
 Hope
(@gabriel)
50+ Forum Posts

Everybody here wants stronger chin but you guys don’t realize that a VERY strong chin is because the midface is too far backwards. Let me show you an example of a girl who went under a lefort surgery and her chin got weaker. 

https://gyazo.com/e84b11772a3f44de8678c31898b7f9f7

If you have good maxilla growth (which 95% of you have on this forum) your side profile should look something like this.

https://gyazo.com/90887d4d3d5230063e4d3335e4863a38

https://gyazo.com/5d00507067f864e5f2faeb2e2f005a5e

https://gyazo.com/11f249af94838ec23c3baf426135b0db

I included male models because a lot of people here think you need apelike maxilla to be a model. Well a lot of you ( if not all ) guys have the exact same maxilla as these models and you are not models. There are 2 factors to be a model. Be good looking and have a luck to find and agent that likes your look. Model doesn’t mean you are attractive. Attraction is subjective.... stop ruining this forum with stupid stuff. Thanks

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Topic starter Posted : 23/11/2018 5:09 pm
EddieMoney
(@eddiemoney)
500+ Forum Posts

Again another post misunderstanding and overemphasizing the significance of profile.

Because the maxilla ROTATES, your profile will probably never change even if your mew line becomes smaller. It may develop a bit of stronger features by a few millimeters (see: Progress of Progress) but the quality of your profile will never change. That girl thru surgery went from concave to convex profile but realistically they did more than just 1 surgery on her, so this isn't the best example.

There are many people with the same type of profile but their maxilla development will be very different due to rotation of the midface. 

Also, mandible size IS genetic. However, if the mandible has room to move forward to maintain occlusion , the chin WILL become stronger, but it will position itself to its genetic ideal. You won't grow a larger chin; it just is better positioned in the face.

And no, your average person's maxillary development is terrible because our posture is terrible. Just 10mm of downward growth can cause breathing problems. 

By the way, the guy below has the same profile quality as the male models above but is clearly downward grown. Can you spot the differences?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-87c25d50295484d9c8fd0300504a05dd

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Posted : 23/11/2018 7:07 pm
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Hope
 Hope
(@gabriel)
50+ Forum Posts
Posted by: EddieMoney

Again another post misunderstanding and overemphasizing the significance of profile.

Because the maxilla ROTATES, your profile will probably never change even if your mew line becomes smaller. It may develop a bit of stronger features by a few millimeters (see: Progress of Progress) but the quality of your profile will never change. That girl thru surgery went from concave to convex profile but realistically they did more than just 1 surgery on her, so this isn't the best example.

There are many people with the same type of profile but their maxilla development will be very different due to rotation of the midface. 

Also, mandible size IS genetic. However, if the mandible has room to move forward to maintain occlusion , the chin WILL become stronger, but it will position itself to its genetic ideal. You won't grow a larger chin; it just is better positioned in the face.

And no, your average person's maxillary development is terrible because our posture is terrible. Just 10mm of downward growth can cause breathing problems. 

By the way, the guy below has the same profile quality as the male models above but is clearly downward grown. Can you spot the differences?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-87c25d50295484d9c8fd0300504a05dd

I dont like the picture you included because of these reasons: Angle is really bad + lens distortion + excess bodyfat. The male models pictures were taken from a distance with a quality camera except the last one.

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Topic starter Posted : 23/11/2018 7:29 pm
EddieMoney
(@eddiemoney)
500+ Forum Posts
Posted by: Gabriel
Posted by: EddieMoney

Again another post misunderstanding and overemphasizing the significance of profile.

Because the maxilla ROTATES, your profile will probably never change even if your mew line becomes smaller. It may develop a bit of stronger features by a few millimeters (see: Progress of Progress) but the quality of your profile will never change. That girl thru surgery went from concave to convex profile but realistically they did more than just 1 surgery on her, so this isn't the best example.

There are many people with the same type of profile but their maxilla development will be very different due to rotation of the midface. 

Also, mandible size IS genetic. However, if the mandible has room to move forward to maintain occlusion , the chin WILL become stronger, but it will position itself to its genetic ideal. You won't grow a larger chin; it just is better positioned in the face.

And no, your average person's maxillary development is terrible because our posture is terrible. Just 10mm of downward growth can cause breathing problems. 

By the way, the guy below has the same profile quality as the male models above but is clearly downward grown. Can you spot the differences?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-87c25d50295484d9c8fd0300504a05dd

I dont like the picture you included because of these reasons: Angle is really bad + lens distortion + excess bodyfat. The male models pictures were taken from a distance with a quality camera except the last one.

Still the same type of profile 

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Posted : 24/11/2018 5:10 am
tgw
 tgw
(@tgw)
10+ Forum Posts

No, chins are like brow ridges or nasal bones. They are simply tacked onto the bones underneath but their size and protrusion is separate.

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Posted : 24/11/2018 1:38 pm

THE GREAT WORK