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[Solved] Should people with an overbite turn the jaw downward, not upward?

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alfio
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Looking me at the mirror in profile, I notice that because of my overbite, my gonial angle is <90°, and this causes my lower incisors to be completely covered by the upper incisors; moreover, my soft palate is very high, and this led me to deduce that the presumed counterclockwise oscillation of the mandible should not occur in my case, but rather I should rotate my mandible clockwise so that my gonial angle becomes less acute and my overbite resolves accordingly. Of course I also need a forward jaw movement to do this.

Now I wonder if mewing is enough to do this, or should I use any particular technique to achieve this swing, such as facepulling or expander?

 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:10 pm
EddieMoney
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You never want to move downwards. Counterclockwise rotation actually can help make  the bite more open and make your incisors less retroclined. 

All clockwise rotation will do for your is push your mandible further and make your chin look weak. This also will make your incisors more retroclined.

I say this as someone with an artificial overbite. Counterclockwise upswing has helped me a lot.

 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:43 pm
Rockyp33
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yeah i have a similar bite im focusing on the front of the palate more to see what happens

 
Posted : 03/10/2018 1:06 am
richardthunder
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Posted by: EddieMoney

You never want to move downwards. Counterclockwise rotation actually can help make  the bite more open and make your incisors less retroclined. 

All clockwise rotation will do for your is push your mandible further and make your chin look weak. This also will make your incisors more retroclined.

I say this as someone with an artificial overbite. Counterclockwise upswing has helped me a lot.

Are you seeing your upper teeth shift up and forward from just mewing? 

 
Posted : 04/10/2018 4:19 am
deep.thought
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Posted by: Rockyp33

yeah i have a similar bite im focusing on the front of the palate more to see what happens

I’m a similar bite too and I always asked myself if that in this case we should focus on front palate instead of the back part

 
Posted : 04/10/2018 8:32 am
Rockyp33
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deep im back to meewing normally i just fixed head posture and its much easier now

 
Posted : 04/10/2018 7:19 pm
deep.thought
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you meant front of head pushing down and back tongue pushing up right? If yes, I’m trying this too and yeah I think that focussing on tip pusing the front palate was wrong, can’t explain why, just feeling.

 

 
Posted : 04/10/2018 8:37 pm
EddieMoney
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Posted by: richardthunder
Posted by: EddieMoney

You never want to move downwards. Counterclockwise rotation actually can help make  the bite more open and make your incisors less retroclined. 

All clockwise rotation will do for your is push your mandible further and make your chin look weak. This also will make your incisors more retroclined.

I say this as someone with an artificial overbite. Counterclockwise upswing has helped me a lot.

Are you seeing your upper teeth shift up and forward from just mewing? 

Yes absolutely 

 
Posted : 05/10/2018 12:01 am
richardthunder
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Posted by: EddieMoney
Posted by: richardthunder
Posted by: EddieMoney

You never want to move downwards. Counterclockwise rotation actually can help make  the bite more open and make your incisors less retroclined. 

All clockwise rotation will do for your is push your mandible further and make your chin look weak. This also will make your incisors more retroclined.

I say this as someone with an artificial overbite. Counterclockwise upswing has helped me a lot.

Are you seeing your upper teeth shift up and forward from just mewing? 

Yes absolutely 

And I assume teeth moved forward without any tipping/flaring? Do you find that your lower teeth/mandible have moved forward along with the maxilla and upper teeth? I’m curious how long it took to see significant results. Thanks!

 
Posted : 05/10/2018 2:08 am
EddieMoney
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Posted by: richardthunder
Posted by: EddieMoney
Posted by: richardthunder
Posted by: EddieMoney

You never want to move downwards. Counterclockwise rotation actually can help make  the bite more open and make your incisors less retroclined. 

All clockwise rotation will do for your is push your mandible further and make your chin look weak. This also will make your incisors more retroclined.

I say this as someone with an artificial overbite. Counterclockwise upswing has helped me a lot.

Are you seeing your upper teeth shift up and forward from just mewing? 

Yes absolutely 

And I assume teeth moved forward without any tipping/flaring? Do you find that your lower teeth/mandible have moved forward along with the maxilla and upper teeth? I’m curious how long it took to see significant results. Thanks!

Teeth flaring isn’t bad if your incisors are severely retroclined. It allows the mandible room to protract forward thus strengthening the profile (chin and gonial angle) 

My teeth haven’t done this at any rate. Upswing has occurred of maybe 1-2mm judging by side profile pics of me smiling. And yes the mandible will move along with it automatically. 

 
Posted : 06/10/2018 9:41 am
jakesey
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Posted by: @rockyp33

deep im back to meewing normally i just fixed head posture and its much easier now

Hey, by fixing head posture do you mean tucking your chin more and mewing? Also did the technique of pushing your front palate not help fix the overbite? 

 
Posted : 20/01/2022 9:25 am
Rockyp33
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@jakesey Its been a while as far as i know OPEN MOUTH CHEWING. IS KEY. thats all i can say.

 
Posted : 31/05/2022 2:37 am
BountyKiller
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@rockyp33 How can you elaborate

 
Posted : 20/10/2022 1:48 pm

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