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SARPE before mewing?

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I have been trying to mew for months now (hard and soft mewing) but I still am struggling to get posterior of tongue on the roof of mouth. I can feel the pressure that some describe as what its supposed to feel like, but no matter how hard I try I am getting a bulge under my jaw when I put as much of my tongue as possible.


My ortho recomended SARPE surgery, would I be able to mew easier if I got the surgery? or will having surgery not allow me to get any better looking from mewing in the future?


Trying so hard to get info online but whenever people talk about the bulge, everyone just says they are not engaging the posterior third. I am following all the cues making the ‘ng” sound and swallowing, but when I mew from “ng” position I just get the buldge no matter what, and my ortho doesnt even know what mewing is. 


BTW im in ontario canada and most orthos here seem to not know anything about mewing or tongue posture or care about imrpoving facial profile 


also, I am a 24 year old male

Posted : 26/05/2020 8:05 pm
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If you’re getting a bulge under your jaw, it is unlikely that you are getting the back third of your tongue up. that bulge is caused by the the forces of the front/mid of the tongue. 

stand infront of a mirror. find your hyoid bone above your adams apple and gently clasp it with your finger and thumb


 do a proper swallow and you should feel/see it raise. as it’s rising you should find that it cuts off your nasal breathing. this it what it’s like having the back third of your tongue up and having a recessed face.

Posted : 26/05/2020 8:21 pm
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Hyrax is a way better option if you want fast expansion, as mewing is a slow one. SARPE expands the palate and ends any possibility of shortening the face or expanding the lower jaw – cause those things takes time, it needs to fuse the bone in order to happen. Applying pressure is what causes “mewing effects”, doing SARPE will only cut all possibility to remold your face, it will sure give you some cheeckbones, but what about the rest? I understand if your case is severe and your palate is too narrow, my tip is to stick to hyrax cause it will give you slow results, and your face can get along with such expansion that its being made.

Posted : 08/06/2020 1:09 pm
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@krollic I can’t get it to raise no matter how much I try. There is less bulge when my tongue is on the bottom of my mouth than any variation i can do with my tongue on the roof 

Posted : 15/06/2020 5:48 pm