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Numbing sensations in my maxilla and other weird stuff while mewing – please help

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Loliboly
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Sorry if this post feels like spam. Anyways: A while back, I wrote about how I started having strong sensations in my face while mewing. https://the-great-work.org/community/main-forum/intense-sensations-should-i-get-worried-or-excited/

This last week, the intensity of these has skyrocketed. They are now super strong, to the point where I am having difficulty falling asleep. I have never felt anything like it before.

Teeth: Mostly felt in the upper jaw, but also the lower one. Feels like something is being thrusted between them, like I am flossing multiple teeth at once. This is most evident between my front teeth, which sometimes feel like they are being split apart. My half erupted wisdom teeth(right side) is also feeling sore, like when it first started erupting, and it hurts.

Nose: Feels like it is being lifted up. I can feel pressure radiate in what I believe is my vomer bone, and it feels like it is being pushed to the right side of my face. The pressure may extend down between my front teeth. 

Maxilla: Feels pressure radiate all throughout the whole of my maxilla.

Zygomatic bones: Feel like they are being lifted up and sometimes a little pulled apart, relative to each other. They may sometimes hurt a little as well.

Spheniod and/or temporal bones: Can’t decide which bone it is, but I feel strong pressure on the side of my temples.

Frontal bones: Sensations here are mostly localised in my brow ridge, but may also manifest in the middle of the bone. May sometimes get headaches, localised in this part.

In addition to all this, I am feeling numb in the area around my maxilla. This may extend around my eyes, up into the brow ridge. This sensation started appearing in my cheekbones and nose, and initially felt more like a warm tingling. It has now spread out all over the maxilla, as the days have gone by. I may add that in general, my right side seems to be somewhat more susceptible experiencing anything than my left.

What the heck is going in here?

 

 
Posted : 18/11/2020 12:14 am
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Posted by: @loliboly

What the heck is going in here?

Who really knows? Sounds like you are deep in uncharted territory! Has your occlusion or appearance changed at all during this time? Have you been experiencing any psychological changes? Do these symptoms ease if you interrupt oral posture?

 
Posted : 18/11/2020 2:07 am
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Yeah, it feels a bit scary, haha!

Yesterday it felt like my occlusion had changed somewhat, but upon reflection I have realised that I am rather just becoming more aware of how my palette feels. So far, no physical changes has been taking place. But then again, this hasn’t gone on for more than a week. The same is to be said of any clear psychological changes. I do sometimes feel like my nostrils can inhale a lager stream of air, but it is hard for me to make a clear judgement about this, since the strong pressure inside and beneath my nose may just give an illusion of this.

The pressure disappears as soon as I lower my tongue from my palate, but the feeling of numbness lingers for a short duration of time. It all comes back more or less immediately as I begging to engage my tongue.

As I wake up, the sensations of pressure seems to be present, but in bypass mode. They quickly spike as I start to apply more pressure. The numbing feeling comes back in a few minutes. As the day progress, the intensity subtly increases, leaving me both worried and excited at the end of the day .

For the record, I would say that I have been practicing hard/medium mewing(combined with a strong suction)more or less constantly during these days.

Thought: Could the numbness be a result of blood vessels being constricted due to my maxilla moving and pressing against them? It feels just like when one has been siting for to long and the glutes becomes numb.

Also, this experience has brought to mind Jamos description of having a sore skull, and how the muscle/bone mind conception he emphasised. It makes me inclined to keep perusing this path, since I seem the be experiencing something similar. But I am also afraid that I will mess something up if I do. What do you reckon?

 

 
Posted : 18/11/2020 4:08 am
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Posted by: @loliboly

Thought: Could the numbness be a result of blood vessels being constricted due to my maxilla moving and pressing against them?

Doesn’t sound that far-fetched. Is your skin numb too?

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What do you reckon?

At the very least, keep an eye for any unwanted outcomes. Some have developed tinnitus and TMJ-issues from going too hard or progressing too fast, even in spite of positive aesthetic changes. While features being lifted up sounds like a good thing, the numbness does seem potentially alarming. Though if this numbness evolved from what was originally warm tingling, the situation may be quite benign.

 
Posted : 18/11/2020 6:05 am
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Posted by: @progress

Doesn’t sound that far-fetched. Is your skin numb too?

Not that I can’t tell. And that seems strange to me, since the feeling is more or less synonymous to local anaesthesia or a sleeping arm. I suppose it could be a matter of nerves, too. 

 While features being lifted up sounds like a good thing, the numbness does seem potentially alarming. Though if this numbness evolved from what was originally warm tingling, the situation may be quite benign.

Could you bother to elaborate on this? Is warm tingling a sign of something positive, in general? If I recall correctly, you and a few other discussed this in the original thumb pulling-thread, and someone suggested this could be a sign of compressed nerve endings being freed up and getting used to their newfound space.

By the way, I am start to get convinced that my upper right wisdom teeth eruption has progressed. I am pretty sure that I can feel a little bit more of the teeth with my tongue than I previously could. The signs of eruption has increased as well: the gum surrounding it has become more sore, and I can really feel something being pulled out as my tongue presses against my palate. In addition to this, I am starting to have similar sensations in the rest of my wisdom teeth, including my mandible.  Maybe this is a sign that something good is happening, after all.

 
Posted : 18/11/2020 9:16 pm
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Posted by: @loliboly

Could you bother to elaborate on this? Is warm tingling a sign of something positive, in general?

Just saying that if you are to feel anything at all, warm tingling sounds much better than sharp pain! Eruption of wisdom teeth at least is an undeniably good sign.

 
Posted : 20/11/2020 6:34 pm
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True, true. The progression from tingling to numbness was in fact somewhat pleasurable at first, since it felt like my skin/face/bones(still unclear) sort of got a high, if that makes any sense. But it become a bit overwhelming, as all of the sensations increased in intensity. I however had to back of a bit yesterday, because of fatigue. Starting again today, the sensations feel more pleasurable, so I have decided to keep going on. It is really interesting actually. It sort of feels like the hard tissue of my palate/the bottom of my nose is being stretched out, as if I where stretching a tense muscle. And if I am not tricking my self, it feels like my teeth are reacting to this, as though they are being ‘set free’(I have very crowded teeth). Another interesting thing is that I am getting similar sensations in the area where my left bottom wisdom teeth sat(before it was extracted), as I get in the rest of my wisdom teeth. It will be interesting to see what this leads to.

Anyways, thanks for the input!

 
Posted : 20/11/2020 11:03 pm
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Can you update what has happened from these sensations?

Have you split your suture? Any facial changes?

 
Posted : 16/04/2021 8:53 am
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@maxilla_man

The sensations has continued, albeit not as intense as they where initially. The intensity of the sensations also seem to correlate with the quality of my tongue posture, especially the amount of force – as for the latest month, I have been slacking off with paying attention to engaging the whole of my tongue, and I haven’t been hard mewing at all. Thus, the sensations has gone away. However, the moment I set my mind to it, I can make them appear again in a very short amount of time. Sadly, I haven’t observed any changes what so ever.

 
Posted : 20/05/2021 3:37 pm
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I forgot to mention another interesting thing. After a while, I stared getting a lot of sensations in what I believe to be many of the different sutures of the skull – particularly the coronal and the lambdoid suture.

 
Posted : 20/05/2021 3:41 pm
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Damn bro, in the end it seems to always come down to consistency. You have to have faith and I think it’s the hardest thing to procure in this journey that we are all on.

Recently, I have been feeling these spiky tingling feeling underneath my eyes on the maxilla, zygomatics and on the sides of the nose after changing my technique. I wonder what these really mean. Would’ve loved to see what your tingling sensations produced through consistent pressure. I suppose I will trudge in this unclear territory.

Yesterday I had a tremendous success as I found that hard mewing in combination with an appliance has produced a 0.5mm Median Diastema even with a class 2 division 2 malocclusion! This is even after 2 years of mewing experimentation that seemed to yield no results.

I think I understand what to do now.

Thought I’d share my results. Would love to hear more on your side. Cheers.

 
Posted : 19/09/2021 7:50 am
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Posted by: @maxilla_man

Recently, I have been feeling these spiky tingling feeling underneath my eyes on the maxilla, zygomatics and on the sides of the nose after changing my technique. I wonder what these really mean. Would’ve loved to see what your tingling sensations produced through consistent pressure. I suppose I will trudge in this unclear territory.

Lot of the same sensations I been getting it seems! I would like to think that it is a sign of change taking place, but who really knows? 

Yesterday I had a tremendous success as I found that hard mewing in combination with an appliance has produced a 0.5mm Median Diastema even with a class 2 division 2 malocclusion! This is even after 2 years of mewing experimentation that seemed to yield no results.

I think I understand what to do now.

Congratulations on your progress! From what I have read so far, a diastema always seems to be an indication of growth taking place. It seems to be a common occurrence that the progress speeds up from that point as well. Is this something you have been experiencing? Personally, I haven’t managed to stay consistent with the hard mewing, so I haven’t had as much progress as might be expected otherwise. No structural change from what I can observe. However, my right nostril has started opening up quite recently. It comes and goes in waves. Sometimes it is being 100% functional, sometimes 75%, 50%, and sometimes it hits as low a 5%(my baseline since many, many years). I think it depends on the quality on my tongue posture. However, I am not quite sure what it is I am doing that makes it work sometimes and sometimes not. I am still working on trying to figure out what the proper way is. It would very interesting to hear about your technique, as well as the type of expander you have been using!

 
Posted : 16/10/2021 5:41 pm

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