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Mewing is giving me LSD/Mushroom flashbacks  

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Darpok
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I know this sounds strange, but I've been mewing for about 2 years and I occasionally get this sensation. It stopped for a while, but now it's back

 

I can't really explain how it feels, but it's a certain ... Feeling. It's unmistakable, I get it every time I do hallucinogens. Anyone who has tried them before might understand.  it'snot so much a solid physical sensation, but you feel it physically. 

Anyways I haven't done any drugs in a few months, but did rededicate myself to mewing. Just like a year ago, I'm getting that flashback feeling again.

No visuals. No real big difference, it just feels like the LSD/mushroom comeup all of a sudden and lasts as long as I'm still mewing with attention. Occasionally I get the same loud sudden tone (think night vision goggles starting up) that I got on high doses of LSD too. 

I definitely haven't taken enough drugs or abused them enough for them to have damaged my mind. Everything is normal, except when I mew for a few hours I get the faint hallucinogens feeling again

I don't know what to make of this. It's very interesting to me

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Posted : 21/06/2019 2:54 pm
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How were the trips in general? Did you have any traumatic experiences? The nervous system can "store" all kinds of emotional states and oral posture ends up interacting with some of the most important nerves in the body such as trigeminal and vagus nerves. It might be that your body has not fully processed these experiences yet, and that mewing allows the residual emotional tension be processed and relieved.

If I remember right, @sclera mentioned waking up to geometric patterns in the middle of the night after getting oral posture down. @admin might have something to add too.

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Posted : 21/06/2019 3:49 pm
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From time to time, and increasingly frequently as I progress, Mewing creates in me a continuous tone, much less sharp than night vision goggles, more a soft pleasant tinnitus. It is combined with a pleasant warm flooding of energy in my body with a mild feeling of tingling and nervousness. I have always half heartedly thought of this as an awakening of parts of my nervous system. I think of it as positive and I enjoy it, and feel no need to label it as a result. I have read yogic accounts of awakening and the opening of the nadis that include spontaneous cranial popping and realignment, such as many of us Mewing experience though not quite spontaneously. I am unwilling to think about such awakening either lest it become an aim and prefer to keep any ideas of ‘ascension’ strictly in the Lookism sense.

Chronic pain when the onset is slow is a strange thing because you may not be aware of feeling it as you rebaseline your normal faster than the pain increases. The loss of feelings of well being if slow is even more difficult to notice under the same rebaselining. Now this would be the case if these things were in a limb, but the work of Mewing is creating expansion right at one’s core, in what until I came across Mike Mew I considered to be my physically immutable core, above and behind the palate, where sensation was not physical but mental and emotional. I have an idea that the ‘epicentre’ of expansion in Mewing is in front of that core in the nasal pharynx (energetically if not in terms of physical distance); it is not properly an epicentre either because it is a void. The nasal pharynx was an early focus as I sought to open up my airway and breathing, so it may just  be a projection of those aims rather than something that I have sensed.

I am hoping that I am changing the fundamental sensational experience of being me (trying to avoid the word consciousness for same reason as above) for the better from the subnormal that I have descended into slowly and unawares. I am expecting that over time the improvement, just as the decline was, will be rebaselined, taken for granted and its sensations will not intrude or feel unsettling in the slightest. This is almost a pity like the loss of the soaring euphoria of the onset of intoxication of any sorts, but it is just how it is and I cannot negotiate with it or alter it, and actually I suspect it is not a pity at all.

So ‘No. I don’t think you are releasing drug flashbacks.’ And yes I am aware that this will read as if I am tripping as I write.  

 

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Posted : 21/06/2019 5:22 pm
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From time to time, and increasingly frequently as I progress, Mewing creates in me a continuous tone, much less sharp than night vision goggles, more a soft pleasant tinnitus. It is combined with a pleasant warm flooding of energy in my body with a mild feeling of tingling and nervousness. I have always half heartedly thought of this as an awakening of parts of my nervous system. I think of it as positive and I enjoy it, and feel no need to label it as a result. I have read yogic accounts of awakening and the opening of the nadis that include spontaneous cranial popping and realignment, such as many of us Mewing experience though not quite spontaneously. I am unwilling to think about such awakening either lest it become an aim and prefer to keep any ideas of ‘ascension’ strictly in the Lookism sense.

Chronic pain when the onset is slow is a strange thing because you may not be aware of feeling it as you rebaseline your normal faster than the pain increases. The loss of feelings of well being if slow is even more difficult to notice under the same rebaselining. Now this would be the case if these things were in a limb, but the work of Mewing is creating expansion right at one’s core, in what until I came across Mike Mew I considered to be my physically immutable core, above and behind the palate, where sensation was not physical but mental and emotional. I have an idea that the ‘epicentre’ of expansion in Mewing is in front of that core in the nasal pharynx (energetically if not in terms of physical distance); it is not properly an epicentre either because it is a void. The nasal pharynx was an early focus as I sought to open up my airway and breathing, so it may just  be a projection of those aims rather than something that I have sensed.

I am hoping that I am changing the fundamental sensational experience of being me (trying to avoid the word consciousness for same reason as above) for the better from the subnormal that I have descended into slowly and unawares. I am expecting that over time the improvement, just as the decline was, will be rebaselined, taken for granted and its sensations will not intrude or feel unsettling in the slightest. This is almost a pity like the loss of the soaring euphoria of the onset of intoxication of any sorts, but it is just how it is and I cannot negotiate with it or alter it, and actually I suspect it is not a pity at all.

So ‘No. I don’t think you are releasing drug flashbacks.’ And yes I am aware that this will read as if I am tripping as I write.  

 

Interesting thoughts, thanks for sharing.

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I've found that hard mewing causes me to taste that weird strong shroom flavor again.  I don't experience any effects however.

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I have smoked weed a few times and I have been sober for a month. However recently I have noticed a mini high that lasts for a few seconds. This seems to happen a few times a week whenever I am walking or standing. I cannot say mewing is the cause as maybe it could be a side affect from the weed but it only happens when standing up or walking 

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I've found that hard mewing causes me to taste that weird strong shroom flavor again.  I don't experience any effects however.

Yeah kind of the flavor too. That earthy taste

It's incredible to head others are experiencing this. 

@Odys Your post is awesome. Do you think the empty space / center of expansion might be where the cranium meets the face? Pretty much where u said the nasal pharynx?

 

@Progress They were a pretty mixed bag. Maybe I'm still processing it. I like your theory. It's just that since the drug is long gone from the system idk why some of us seem to be getting effects linked directly to it. 

I'm so happy to hear that others have experienced this, now I know I'm not just having flashbacks for no reason. Maybe it's a good sign that the mewing is working

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Posted : 21/06/2019 8:18 pm
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I could not say. I was interested to read about the ALF device and its aim to be part of a remedy for cranial sidebend in children. This is where the sphenoid bone has as a result of dental misalignment twisted in relation to the occipital bone. There are some interesting scan pictures of this on the internet. Medical science holds that this ‘suture’ fuses very early in life. Generally Mewers are sceptical of sutures fusing or we would not do what we do. I have always liked the statement (can’t remember where from) that humans are puppets on a string and the puppet board is the sphenoid bone. A lot of people here talk of moving the sphenoid forward to achieve facial change. I think I may be trying to release it from a nasty jam.

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Posted : 22/06/2019 2:37 pm
RamonT
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I have no doubt it does, i actually wrote something about it recently in this forum but i deleted it.

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Posted : 22/06/2019 4:58 pm
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If I remember right, @sclera mentioned waking up to geometric patterns in the middle of the night after getting oral posture down. 

Well, at least I mentioned this. Never once taken psychedelics. It only happened one time really and a couple of times to a much lesser degree. The night before I had had a night terror in which I woke up having bolted out of bed and towards the kitchen screaming. Never happened before. This one was accompanied by a slight feeling of terror as well. What I saw was a wall of patterns all the way across my field of vision in vivid colors mutating, they were angular at first and then started to resemble brain folds which startled me and I snapped out of it. I'm not sure if it was before or after this when I experienced some kind of hormonal surge - for about a week I would go to sleep around midnight and spontaneously wake up around 5 am, feeling lucid and energetic throughout the whole day. I had been struggling with chronic lethargy and brain fog for years. I would often wake up to my fingers tingling and an urge to rapidly move them as if playing a keyboard. The week after this I experimented with some ganja and experienced what felt like a drastic spurt of progress. 

EDIT: IIRC it was well after midnight actually. I would barely need any sleep at all. It was strange.

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Posted : 26/06/2019 11:29 am
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So the geometric patterns have gone, but what I now experience is what I can only describe as a floating buckshot pattern. Organic centralized dots that spread out a bit. It's usually a glowing red, but the other night I saw them in black for the first time. They usually are hovering over my partner. He doesn't experience anything negative with the red "splatter" as I call it, but he did have nightmares after the black splatter. I feel like the "splatter" is different from the "geometric snowflakes", but they're from the same space.

I have to be very very careful with THC in edibles, and have only taken it twice in the past year, despite having my medical card. It had started out as anxiety and pain management, but I've been hesitant. Since my ego death a year ago, I kind of pick up where I left off whenever I take them. It's so hard to describe, but I process time, pain, symmetry, and relationships. My paranoia kicks in at times and it turns into a story about alien invasions and shapeshifters, etc. BUT when things aren't so scary, my mind explores healing emotionally as well as physically, and time actually goes backwards for me, all the way into the big bang. Once the big bang condenses back into nothing, I become conscious back in the present moment, but I see it with new eyes.

EDIT: I also need to add that the backwards momentum is incredibly intense. I feel like all of my bones are breaking and resetting over and over again. I'm free of pain and yet the sensation is overwhelming. 

I keep asking, "Why this moment?" And I get an answer that involves nothing but love and acceptance. Time stops, then slowly picks up backwards again, and the cycle repeats.

Not to get too deep into my journeys! I know how out there this all sounds, and I completely accept that this whole process could most likely be my brain simply processing things differently if my plates have relieved or exerted pressure in places due to the releases. But I'm fascinated with how intrinsically this whole process has been about healing as a whole.

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Posted : 26/06/2019 1:18 pm
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Piecing these experiences together is very intriguing to me, and part of why I'm so fond of Plato's site.

I mentioned in another thread how disarticulating my mid-palatal suture early in my mewing resulted in a few huge snap/pops, a glorious sense of warm fluid flowing through my skull, and ecstasy lasting for some time after. Definitely psychedelic feeling.

Last night, while meditating and focusing on the feeling of my suction hold and being conscious of my structure, I was able to get some amazing "release" feelings of plates in my skull. Like on the more compressed side of my skull, not even on my face. I was not using significant force at all, but I experienced feelings of release totally different and more significant-feeling than pop/creaks from hard mewing.

I really believe visualization and consciousness of your structure is a huge aid. It made less force feel like it caused more change, and different change, somehow. Maybe that is why some people swear by subliminals - it forces you to sit/lay down for some time, meditate, visualize, and become conscious of your structure. As for the mechanism of action beyond that... I don't know. But I can say this. I recently had my own spiritual awakening and I do feel much more aware these days. When I am decently "integrated" into my surroundings, interpersonal communication has new layers of depth that are just a lot of fun and pretty hilarious. If I feel very engaged and stimulated, like when I talk to my close friends or a beautiful person, my facial expressions take on a level of subtlety that I can't even control. I will, for example, smirk or raise an eyebrow in the strangest way that I haven't experienced before. It feels as though there is a single muscle fibre in my face that pulls my eyebrow, or the corner of my lip, up for the smallest of split seconds. It's like a little electric zap causes that single muscle fibre to contract strongly for just a single instant. I cannot reproduce these expressions or contractions when I try to. They only happen to me when I am in flow.

Whatever that mechanism is, perhaps it is also what I accessed when I meditated and was very conscious of my structure, leading to that release and expansion feeling in my skull. I think we have ways of controlling our body structure beyond the normal day-to-day contractions.

Oh yeah, and doing gentle meditative facepulling has also directly caused some orgasmic feelings of catharsis for me. The way Plato writes started to make sense to me when that first happened.

What a beautiful mystery!

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The feedback from body has been very important. Right from the beginning when there were few things other signs that I was achieving anything it told me that what I was doing was good. And then there remained the question could I ever get anywhere satisfactory with my slow progress and without a rational answer it was the compelling deliciousness of that feedback that kept me going.

There is a facile Lookism idea that those with CFD are treated worse by others. True enough but there are deeper levels to the alienation. First a face that is tight and distorting cannot be trusted to convey the subtleties of emotion that a properly functioning one will and may even give off false signals. When I first began to suffer after orthodontic work I was always being asked what was worrying me when I was not worried, and before I started Mewing I was always being accused of being angry when I was not. But I think it works also to cut off access to the emotions of others. It diminishes the CFD sufferer from mirroring the facial expressions of those he is in conversation with and thereby producing empathetic emotions. Facial expressions act both as a display of emotions and a creator of them.

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The feedback from body has been very important. Right from the beginning when there were few things other signs that I was achieving anything it told me that what I was doing was good. And then there remained the question could I ever get anywhere satisfactory with my slow progress and without a rational answer it was the compelling deliciousness of that feedback that kept me going.

There is a facile Lookism idea that those with CFD are treated worse by others. True enough but there are deeper levels to the alienation. First a face that is tight and distorting cannot be trusted to convey the subtleties of emotion that a properly functioning one will and may even give off false signals. When I first began to suffer after orthodontic work I was always being asked what was worrying me when I was not worried, and before I started Mewing I was always being accused of being angry when I was not. But I think it works also to cut off access to the emotions of others. It diminishes the CFD sufferer from mirroring the facial expressions of those he is in conversation with and thereby producing empathetic emotions. Facial expressions act both as a display of emotions and a creator of them.

Like one of the posters mentioned ITT I've had a long-time fascination with Plato's face-pulling page, in particular with the content he wrote there about the Schizoid character. It definitely served to be a big motivator for me, and I thought for many years how nice it would be to successfully move my maxilla up and forwards, and in so doing, possibly resolve my own Schizoid character (which a psychiatrist once said I had and I did have symptoms such as flat effect).

A particularly misguided tenant of Lookism is that you just need to look good to enjoy a more acceptable lifestyle with positive life outcomes. It brings to mind a young woman who came here to post about how she kept getting looks of disgust from people when out and about, experiencing negative outcomes in social situations and an inability to find a mate, etc. The general reception she received here is that she was good looking and thus her concerns were invalid, and not much forthcoming assistance with her social concerns despite how they were quite serious with studies showing that they could have all the way up to a lethal effect. What's going on with her I think is at least similar to what happened to me. Despite being good looking in my youth and enjoying some of the typical trappings that go along with that, I'd also get looks of disgust from people when out and about, negative social experiences etc which just so happened to stop after I managed to decrease my mew indicator line from 45 to 41. Lookism would argue this is a measure of improved appearance and could net such an outcome, but I don't think looking a little bit better was the reason behind this and I wonder if this change also coincided with some sort of effect upon the vagus and trigeminal nerves, possibly other cranial nerves, facial muscles etc which ultimately served to signal to others that I'm safe (or something to that effect). A person's good looks is also typically reflective of good functioning, and perhaps this signals on some level the ability to be useful and safe within a community. So I can see how orthodontics producing a negative result can mix up social signals and maybe even signals in the brain (possibly leading to neurological problems such as dystonia) because I've read many, many personal accounts of such outcomes.

Alienation is seemingly becoming a growing social concern if the various communities online discussing issues of social exclusion/isolation and issues finding/retaining a mate are any indication, such as lookism/inceldom/femceldom, foreveralone, and MGTOW, various addiction/mental health communities online and off, etc. And some of these people having troubles are good looking! But they can't find/retain a mate, are socially isolated and excluded, get looks of disgust when out and about, etc. If I had to hazard a guess as to what's going on, trauma in the early years and missed formative life experiences may set this pattern up for some individuals.

Lookism also largely disregards various other factors besides physical appearance discussed in the texts about evolutionary psychology with respect to how mate retention can work. Proximity, timing and opportunism (by which I mean the ability to detect and act upon low risk high reward opportunities, not necessarily immoral behaviour) play no small part as well.

Anyway, some other things happened after decreasing my mew indicator line which I've been mulling over for a year or so: still just processing it all so I haven't been able to write much about it. Going from frozen feelings to what seems more akin to an opened floodgate of them is a change I'm still adjusting to. It's very nice to no longer get looks of disgust either, that was god awful... Then more recently, a few months ago, I felt compelled to read a certain blog, and that lead me to discovering something else that I'd been experiencing in the past year but didn't know what to make of. It was about yogis mentioning one needs to do a certain practice(s) (one of these mentioned being a practice that brings the maxilla forward) to initiate the flow of what's called the sweet nectar that is said to come from the pituitary gland and gathers at the roof of the mouth. Makes me wonder just what people are chasing when they consume sugar-laden junk foods: perhaps it's this sweet nectar taste which was perhaps more commonly a part of the human experience in the past? The phenomena is linked to "rejection of worldly desires" and well, I'm so far having an easy time sticking to this sugar and grain-free diet I started; when your mouth constantly has a sweet taste then what's the point of sweets?

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Posted : 27/06/2019 7:21 pm
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i wont respond to this thread anymore because i hate talking about this but SMOKING WEED ONE TIME GAVE ME A PSYCHOSIS WHICH IM STILL STUCK IN 6 YEARS LATER STAY AWAY STAY AWAY STAY AWAY IF YOU ARE READING THIS DONT TAKE THE CHANCE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT LISTEN TO THE WORLD JUST DONT EVER TRY ANY DRUGS thank you thats all i have to stay. 

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i wont respond to this thread anymore because i hate talking about this but SMOKING WEED ONE TIME GAVE ME A PSYCHOSIS WHICH IM STILL STUCK IN 6 YEARS LATER STAY AWAY STAY AWAY STAY AWAY IF YOU ARE READING THIS DONT TAKE THE CHANCE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT LISTEN TO THE WORLD JUST DONT EVER TRY ANY DRUGS thank you thats all i have to stay. 

For those who are going to consume cannabis anyway, I highly recommend combining it with a CBD product. As we all know, today's marijuana plants are freakish mutants selectively bred to be absurdly THC-dominant. 

Consuming it alongside CBD is more enjoyable, less mind-bending, and reduces the chance of cannabis-triggered psychosis or schizophrenia.

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As you undergo correction in the near future, please consider keeping records for your own sake and for others. Pictures of dental impressions, scans, medical reports reports can be very helpful even with all personally identifying information blocked out.

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