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Large neck = lack of recession

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PolHolmes
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It’s just an observation that I’ve made, but people with huge necks seem to have really developed mandibles and maxillas. Wrestlers, rugby players, American football players, etc etc. 

Almost everyone who has a recessed face also has a thinner neck in comparison. Perhaps direct neck training could be another avenue that one could partake in, in their journey for facial growth? Is one just a by-product of another?

 
Posted : 03/05/2020 1:52 pm
Anonymous 8448
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My neck isn’t huge but still above average (I’m pretty lean btw) and I still have a recessed face.

However, my neck posture used to be terrible, and I craned my neck like half a foot from the rest of my body, so that must definitely have played a bigger role in my recession.

 
Posted : 03/05/2020 2:00 pm
Odys
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I think it may work the other way round. I am also a counter example in that I have always had a thick neck. 

I find lifting weights a good exercise to drive the tongue upwards.

The muscles of my neck have needed to be released by hard massage to permit my shoulders and face to spread. I would be wary of targeting them with contraction.

 
Posted : 03/05/2020 4:30 pm
PolHolmes
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The guys with the biggest necks that you see for the most part all have robust facial features too, I work out too and my neck is average. I’m talking about people like Brock Lesnar, Paul Posluszny, Mike Tyson. 

When when you look at Scooby the Youtube fitness guy, sure he has a large body, but his neck is thin and he has a long face. The same with IFBB Pro Regan Grimes, his neck in comparison to his huge body is quite thin, and he also has a fairly flat face, with no cheekbones. It’s just an observation.

 
Posted : 03/05/2020 5:49 pm
auxiliary
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Posted by: @polholmes

The guys with the biggest necks that you see for the most part all have robust facial features too, I work out too and my neck is average. I’m talking about people like Brock Lesnar, Paul Posluszny, Mike Tyson. 

When when you look at Scooby the Youtube fitness guy, sure he has a large body, but his neck is thin and he has a long face. The same with IFBB Pro Regan Grimes, his neck in comparison to his huge body is quite thin, and he also has a fairly flat face, with no cheekbones. It’s just an observation.

Yes but neck size also visually improves facial features without affecting them, look at neck theory, it’s legit. And Tyson didn’t always have a huge neck, he trained it like a mofo.

I have a thick neck as well from weightlifting and I have some recession.

 

 
Posted : 03/05/2020 6:25 pm
ayla mao
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I think this has more to do with proper posture. Having good posture will not only make your face grow properly, but you will also develop a strong neck because your neck muscles have to work to hold good head posture. There is no way around this, jamo talked about using your neck muscles to hold your head locked in a good position.

When I chin tuck and elongate my neck (try to be as tall as possible) I can definitely feel my frontal neck muscles (sternocleidomastoid) being acrivated.

But the thing with neck is that it’s size also greatly depends on your overall mass. People who are very skinny might have small necks despite good posture and good forward growth. Mike Mew has decent forward growth, but his neck is still skinny because he is skinny overall. Another good example of this is Vitalik Buterin.

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Posted : 04/05/2020 4:15 am
Odys
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@ayla-mao There is something about that photo that is more than skinny. You can barely see his trapezius. I had a thick neck higher up- a large collar size on shirts. Then in the last couple of months as my shoulders have broadened I have suddenly acquired trapezius muscles that occupy the angle between the shoulder and the neck.

 
Posted : 04/05/2020 9:13 am
PolHolmes
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@ayla-mao

I mean his neck isn’t disproportionately skinny to the rest of his body, same with Mike Mew. They’re both extremely skinny people. The two examples I linked are people who have very large bodies, and disproportionately skinny necks, along with weak faces.

 
Posted : 04/05/2020 9:50 am
Robbie343
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I think in certain instances yes. Given that CFD can manifest in different ways I think if you develope it because of forward head posture than yes your anterior neck muscles will weaken and you traps will take up the slack. This is what’s happened to me. My myofunctional therapists said my anterior neck muscles are now “breathing muscles” 

 

Do a chin tuck and see how your neck thickens. If you are able to get forward growth then your neck will stay in the tuck position thus thickening it. 

 
Posted : 04/05/2020 8:46 pm
Camus
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@odys Could you elaborate on how your shoulders spread after neck massage? Thanks!

 
Posted : 04/05/2020 10:21 pm
Arnwald
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@polholmes I have seen a clear pattern. It is not just thick neck like a “culturist rounded neck” type. It is more like a wide neck were you can appreciate the clear shape of the larynx between two decent SCM. I’d say that every good looking man shares the same neck (in women is more subtle due to muscle tone) and I start to think it relates to zygomatic widht and projecction. And as if the mandibule would widen fruit of natural chin tucked “precessed against the neck” position. 

I’m trying to do some research about neck muscles and if bad neck posture relates to too weak or too strong SCM but I’ve read people defending both sides. I belive mewing to be just a consequence of proper neck muscle tone and posture; it is not a conscious thing to press the tongue against the palatte for a good looking person, that force must come from another place and I am pretty sure it is the neck.  

If anybody can lighten up this topic it would be great!

 
Posted : 12/05/2020 4:01 pm
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Posted by: @arnwald

@polholmes I have seen a clear pattern. It is not just thick neck like a “culturist rounded neck” type. It is more like a wide neck were you can appreciate the clear shape of the larynx between two decent SCM. I’d say that every good looking man shares the same neck (in women is more subtle due to muscle tone) and I start to think it relates to zygomatic widht and projecction. And as if the mandibule would widen fruit of natural chin tucked “precessed against the neck” position. 

I’m trying to do some research about neck muscles and if bad neck posture relates to too weak or too strong SCM but I’ve read people defending both sides. I belive mewing to be just a consequence of proper neck muscle tone and posture; it is not a conscious thing to press the tongue against the palatte for a good looking person, that force must come from another place and I am pretty sure it is the neck.  

If anybody can lighten up this topic it would be great!

I think you are right. When one seeks to extend the neck, posterior suction happens quite automatically, especially when the mandible is relaxed.

 
Posted : 12/05/2020 6:10 pm

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