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How badly recessed is my chin and maxilla  

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mewing4ever
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I know that my chin is pretty badly recessed which is very discouraging, can I fix this with mewing or am I a lost cause

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Posted : 10/01/2019 4:45 pm
Pame
 Pame
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 Im sure others can give you a more precise evaluation, but from your side profile its evident your face has grown down and backwards. You don't state your age, but the common opinion here on the forum is that its unlikely that you'll see any significant skeletal change from mewing alone after your face has stopped growing (age 12).

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Posted : 11/01/2019 2:50 am
Arkey
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@Pame

I don't think that's the common opinion.

Pretty much everyone on this forum are both over 12 and attempting to create significant skeletal change. With Jamo and Achilles being good examples of what is achievable with diligent work. Achilles' face has observably changed and he is 27!

I think a more accurate statement would be that we don't know what is possible when you're over 12. There's simply not enough evidence either way. People can definitely increase their IMW, they can definitely increase their airways, fix tongue posture, and stop sleep apnea.

I think having changed all these, the skull bones moving over time isn't a stretch of the imagination.

@mewing4ever You look like you're under 20. The most drastic change I've seen from mewing is by a guy that referred to himself as Jamo, or neveragain on this forum. He started mewing when he was 18, and firmly believes that it's possible to change the structure of your face within a year - less time the younger you are.

So by no means are you a lost cause, you're actually probably in a better position than most on this forum. So mew away!

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Posted : 11/01/2019 5:00 am
Pame
 Pame
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@bugs I agree that we don't know for certain whats possible to achieve through mewing after the age of 12. As far as I know there are no documented cases where theres been actual skeletal change from mewing alone. Pictures taken at vastly different angles and with different lighting posted by some random guy on the internet do not prove anything. When there is no scientific evidence to suggest that mewing can produce skeletal change in teenagers and adults, the most reasonable assumption to make is that its not possible to affect the bone structure of the face through mewing for those age groups.

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Posted : 11/01/2019 9:24 am
Abdulrahman
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Posted by: mewing4ever

I know that my chin is pretty badly recessed which is very discouraging, can I fix this with mewing or am I a lost cause

It depends, do you have space between your front upper and lower teeth? Can you jut your lower jaw forward? Do you have an overjet? 

my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/

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Posted : 11/01/2019 10:14 am
Abdulrahman
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Posted by: Pame

@bugs I agree that we don't know for certain whats possible to achieve through mewing after the age of 12. As far as I know there are no documented cases where theres been actual skeletal change from mewing alone. Pictures taken at vastly different angles and with different lighting posted by some random guy on the internet do not prove anything. When there is no scientific evidence to suggest that mewing can produce skeletal change in teenagers and adults, the most reasonable assumption to make is that its not possible to affect the bone structure of the face through mewing for those age groups.

That is correct. I asked Dr. Mike Mew in the second Q&A if he was going to pose new examples of skeletal change in adult and he ignored my question.

my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/

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Posted : 11/01/2019 10:15 am
mewing4ever
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Posted by: Pame

 Im sure others can give you a more precise evaluation, but from your side profile its evident your face has grown down and backwards. You don't state your age, but the common opinion here on the forum is that its unlikely that you'll see any significant skeletal change from mewing alone after your face has stopped growing (age 12).

@Pame Thank you for your response, figured this that's why I was considering chin augmentation surgery (when I have the money). I cannot breath at all while mewing so I am forced to do it in 10 second increments which is extremely inconvenient to do all day long. I recently turned 18.

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Posted : 24/01/2019 5:50 am
mewing4ever
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Posted by: bugs

@Pame

I don't think that's the common opinion.

Pretty much everyone on this forum are both over 12 and attempting to create significant skeletal change. With Jamo and Achilles being good examples of what is achievable with diligent work. Achilles' face has observably changed and he is 27!

I think a more accurate statement would be that we don't know what is possible when you're over 12. There's simply not enough evidence either way. People can definitely increase their IMW, they can definitely increase their airways, fix tongue posture, and stop sleep apnea.

I think having changed all these, the skull bones moving over time isn't a stretch of the imagination.

@mewing4ever You look like you're under 20. The most drastic change I've seen from mewing is by a guy that referred to himself as Jamo, or neveragain on this forum. He started mewing when he was 18, and firmly believes that it's possible to change the structure of your face within a year - less time the younger you are.

So by no means are you a lost cause, you're actually probably in a better position than most on this forum. So mew away!

@bugs Thank you for your response, I am completely unable to breath when I am fully mewing properly, so I am forced to do it in ten second increments. I have been doing my best at this for about 3 months now and I am still unable to breath do you think that it's worth the inconvenience or perhaps i'm doing something incorrectly.

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Posted : 24/01/2019 5:51 am
Sclera
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How is your body and neck posture? I can't quite tell from the photo.

When I first began, I had terrible posture. I still have a ways to go in getting it perfect, but the difference in my body and my breathing is big when I compare breathing slumped and head forward vs. breathing with my ears lined up with my shoulders as best I can, and my spine straight.

Proper oral posture can move your mandible forward simply by activating the right muscles. The lift in the posterior third of the tongue raises the hyoid bone, which can reduce that double chin / turkey neck, and makes the chin look farther forward than would be without the lift. I'm not saying you have this! But this was my own experience.

You might be surprised how the tiny little changes that happen with proper oral and body posture add up, even without skeletal change.

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Posted : 24/01/2019 9:16 am
ohwhatthehell
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Mewing definitely helps with breathing, regardless of whether it can result in skeletal changes. Also, while I encourage you to do this if it makes you feel better about yourself, please don't mew in an attempt to fix issues that might have a significant mental component. If you are doing this because you want to make some changes to your face and that's the extent of it, more power to you. If you have significant distress about the way you look, to the point that you are experiencing depression or worse, please try to see a therapist.

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Posted : 27/01/2019 12:13 am
Odys
 Odys
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How do you normally posture your mouth when you are breathing? 

It is quite common for people to have difficulty breathing when they start mewing. That you experience this seems like a solid reason to carry on. There are things to be gained from this that you are not looking for that you will be glad of. You might  try to start off with a halfway house posture that you can hold. I think this is more likely to give change than brief holds of better posture in between breaths. You have not described the obstacles. Is your palate narrow? Especially narrow at the front? From your photo your maxilla looks to be in quite a good position. You appear to have quite good eye support.

Your mandible is swung back. Are your lower incisors tipped out in compensation for this or do they sit far behind your upper incisors when you have your molars in contact?

I think it can seem as one’s chin is only flesh when the truth is just that the mandible has swung back and that has happened in your case I think because you are holding it there. I am sure you cannot just jut your way out of it all at once. I think your temporomandibular joints will insist that you do it slowly. Perhaps I am wrong and your upper teeth and jaw are downswung and forcing your mandible back but this is not obvious from the photos.

I do not think working on your oral posture is a futile exercise. I think you will be able to find more substance to your chin by swinging the mandible forward. You can probably feel with your fingers whether the bone of your chin is deficient and chin implant would still be a good idea at the end of things.

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Posted : 27/01/2019 3:18 am
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