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How much is my face recessed?

harrykanemaxilla
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On a scale of 1-10 with 1- being very recessed and 10- being completely fine

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Topic starter Posted : 20/11/2018 3:39 am
jimbobape
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You're not recessed at all but could definitely improve from mewing / open-mouth chewing

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Posted : 20/11/2018 5:54 am
EddieMoney
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Looks like normal development. But have you measured the mew line?

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Posted : 20/11/2018 7:47 am
Progress
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Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

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Posted : 20/11/2018 6:24 pm
Slinky
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Amazing morph. Hope op can achieve that profile with mewing 

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Posted : 20/11/2018 6:53 pm
john258
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Posted by: jimbobape

You're not recessed at all but could definitely improve from mewing / open-mouth chewing

What is open mouth chewing? Is it the same as gum chewing/tongue chewing?

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Posted : 20/11/2018 7:34 pm
harrykanemaxilla
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Thanks for the great morph Progress. I thought that I was recessed because of my gonial angle and lack of jawline, long face, and lack of forward growth. Can someone show me a person with lots of recession in their face.

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Topic starter Posted : 20/11/2018 8:22 pm
Bogdar
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Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

 

IMO you don't have "normal" development, at all. You have classical features of a class II malocclusion: chin back from your maxilla, nose seems not in the good dimensions compared to the face, skin under chin a bit too relaxed, lack of compacity, weak cheekline, burried ramus but I guess a not that good angle.

 

IMO again, on the scale of class II features, 10 being the most recessed you are like 5 or so. I don't think your ideal profile by Progress is actually your ideal profile. With all respects @Progress.

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Posted : 20/11/2018 9:47 pm
Progress
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Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?

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Posted : 20/11/2018 10:07 pm
Bogdar
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Posted by: Progress
Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?

As I said, cheekline is still missing. Moreover the chin is too big and give him a prognath look. Intuitively midface and lowface ratio are not good. Except for the cheekline I think your morph on midface is quite accurate and pretty good, but not for the lower face. 

 

I'm not saying I could do a better morph tho.

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Posted : 20/11/2018 10:49 pm
Progress
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Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress
Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?

As I said, cheekline is still missing. Moreover the chin is too big and give him a prognath look. Intuitively midface and lowface ratio are not good. Except for the cheekline I think your morph on midface is quite accurate and pretty good, but not for the lower face. 

 

I'm not saying I could do a better morph tho.

From what I understand, prognathism is defined by mandibular dental arch that has advanced beyond the maxillary arch, essentially being the same thing as underbite / class III malocclusion. A strong telltale of prognathism is usually excessively pouting lower lip, which is something that is not present in the picture.

Now that you pointed it out though, I agree that his chin should end up with less vertical height and that his lower third:middle third ratio is a bit off. I may have made his nose slightly too short too.

In reality, his face would grow in a manner that would be difficult to capture without extensive editing. By this edit I was attempting to give a general picture of the extent of improvements that could possibly be available to him. Considering this, perhaps it was misleading to call it "ideal" profile.

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Posted : 21/11/2018 12:09 am

THE GREAT WORK