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Achilles1
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Well Boyos, I finally made it a whole year. Any questions?

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Posted : 10/04/2019 6:13 pm
dm222
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which one is before and after?

 

second one seems face is shorter

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Posted : 10/04/2019 6:24 pm
drunkwithcoffee
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Has the number of teeth you can see when you smile improved at all?

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:00 pm
dm222
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I tried to do something more scientific...

 

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:34 pm
Achilles1
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Posted by: dm222

which one is before and after?

 

second one seems face is shorter

Second one is current. Can you explain to me what those figures represent? I'm not familiar with that type of analysis.

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:37 pm
Achilles1
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Posted by: drunkwithcoffee

Has the number of teeth you can see when you smile improved at all?

Yes, my smile has improved a lot. I can see 10 across, although the farthest ones back still show a bit of gum. 

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:44 pm
dm222
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I've just invented that analysis lol.

According to that your face lenght between chin and eye diminushed around 7.3%

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:48 pm
Achilles1
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Posted by: dm222

I've just invented that analysis lol.

According to that your face lenght between chin and eye diminushed around 7.3%

Dang! That's a lot!

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Posted : 10/04/2019 7:55 pm
drunkwithcoffee
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@Achilles1 that's pretty great! I could be wrong but I feel like 10 pretty much qualifies you as a "wide palate smile."

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Posted : 10/04/2019 8:16 pm
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dm222
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with the palate expansion the jaw also exapands? if so the whole jaw or just the teeth?

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Posted : 10/04/2019 8:21 pm
Achilles1
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Posted by: dm222

with the palate expansion the jaw also exapands? if so the whole jaw or just the teeth?

Yes the whole jaw expands, as long as you keep the lip seal. My jaws are very wide now

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Posted : 10/04/2019 8:31 pm
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mr.mewing
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Posted by: Achilles1
Posted by: dm222

with the palate expansion the jaw also exapands? if so the whole jaw or just the teeth?

Yes the whole jaw expands, as long as you keep the lip seal. My jaws are very wide now

did you used an device to expand the upper arch or just tongue expansion?

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Posted : 11/04/2019 2:15 am
Pame
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Did you see any improvements in your sleep and breathing or sense of smell? Also did you notice your skin improving? Might just be the lighting but your skin looks a lot less red in the after.

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Posted : 11/04/2019 3:46 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: Achilles1
Posted by: dm222

with the palate expansion the jaw also exapands? if so the whole jaw or just the teeth?

Yes the whole jaw expands, as long as you keep the lip seal. My jaws are very wide now

did you used an device to expand the upper arch or just tongue expansion?

no devices, just my tongue 

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Posted : 11/04/2019 3:58 am
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mr.mewing
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Posted by: Achilles1
Posted by: dm222

with the palate expansion the jaw also exapands? if so the whole jaw or just the teeth?

Yes the whole jaw expands, as long as you keep the lip seal. My jaws are very wide now

did you used an device to expand the upper arch or just tongue expansion?

no devices, just my tongue 

and with retainers like fixed ones 

and what was your starting  intermolar width  and whats it now?

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Posted : 11/04/2019 4:17 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: Pame

Did you see any improvements in your sleep and breathing or sense of smell?

Sleep has improved a bit. Definitely my sense of smell is more acute. Also, my TMD is about 80% improved. As far as skin goes, I think the redness was the lighting probably, but my complexion is insane now. Like, my skin has been pulled tight by my cheekbones and makes me look much more youthful.

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Posted : 11/04/2019 11:48 am
dm222
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Did you mouth breath before? Did you stop?

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Posted : 11/04/2019 12:34 pm
Timbertiger
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Awesome. You went from like a 7 to a 9 within a year.

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Posted : 11/04/2019 1:49 pm
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elcomepvssy
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age?

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Posted : 11/04/2019 5:23 pm
ohwhatthehell
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Can you describe your routine? This progress is bonkers.

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Posted : 12/04/2019 1:15 am
GreekGodBrody
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Your neck posture is horrible in both pics, especially in the after. Can't believe you're not aware of that.

You're jutting your jaw forward, which questions your claims of progress.

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Posted : 12/04/2019 2:27 am
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newyearnewme
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The face does look significantly shorter. 🙂 

But yeah, your neck posture is not ideal, so it's hard to judge.

Less beard looks better on you, it seems

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Posted : 12/04/2019 5:36 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: elcomepvssy

age?

I'm 27

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Posted : 12/04/2019 9:45 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: ohwhatthehell

Can you describe your routine? This progress is bonkers.

Well I wouldn't say I really have a routine per se, but I usually spend 1 or 2 hours chewing gum a day. Also I hard mew. I always look to get this buzzing vibration-type of feeling across my maxilla as well as behind my eyes. Usually my palate has been noticeably wider on subsequent days following this sensation. I'm constantly modifying/improving my tongue position and symmetry as I gain more space.  

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Posted : 12/04/2019 10:00 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: GreekGodBrody

Your neck posture is horrible in both pics, especially in the after. Can't believe you're not aware of that.

You're jutting your jaw forward, which questions your claims of progress.

Second picture is rotated clockwise 15 degrees to get a similar alignment of the lower jaw. This is not how my head is naturally held. 

Also, yeah um, I'm not jutting my jaw forwards. It's kind of amusing that you are so confident in that claim lol

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Posted : 12/04/2019 10:20 am
drunkwithcoffee
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Posted by: GreekGodBrody

Your neck posture is horrible in both pics, especially in the after. Can't believe you're not aware of that.

You're jutting your jaw forward, which questions your claims of progress.

I'm 100% sure he's doing it for the sake of comparison with the before pic.  In a previous thread he's mentioned how he's constantly chin tucking, so it's highly unlikely this is his normal head posture.

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Posted : 12/04/2019 11:00 am
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ohwhatthehell
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How hard is "hard mewing"? We talking like as much force as you can muster? Do you put more pressure towards the back of your tongue or the front/middle? You are around my age and these are killer results, so I wanna get as much knowledge as I can!

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Posted : 12/04/2019 11:28 am
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Timbertiger
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I second ohwatthehell's question. I've been "hard mewing" every day, all day, though I don't feel a "buzzing" sensation so now I'm wondering if I'm mewing hard enough.

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Posted : 12/04/2019 11:45 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: ohwhatthehell

How hard is "hard mewing"? We talking like as much force as you can muster? Do you put more pressure towards the back of your tongue or the front/middle? You are around my age and these are killer results, so I wanna get as much knowledge as I can!

The way I think about it is like you're trying to win a marathon. You obviously need the fastest speed, but you also have to pace yourself. So I push as hard as I can knowing that I will have to keep it that pressure for 12+ hours. Sometimes when I'm on a roll, I will slowly start ramping up the intensity every minute, until my tongue is completely exhausted and burning. Usually I can feel how my bite has changed slightly afterwards. If I feel I have made significant space on the upper palate within a short period, I will made sure to chew gum. That way, I can realign the lower teeth with the new position of the upper teeth. 

Of course, this process never ends. Just because I made good progress last week doesn't mean I get to slack off and enjoy the new expansion this week. It's just like progressive overload in the gym. I also try to eat hard foods whenever I get the chance, like beef jerky or steak. 

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Posted : 12/04/2019 11:56 am
bundfalke
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So shaving your beard and jutting forward your head is considered progress now?

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Posted : 15/04/2019 6:15 pm
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ITZY_BITZY
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no change at all... it doesn't work in adults it seems.

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Posted : 15/04/2019 9:55 pm
Pame
 Pame
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Posted by: Achilles1
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Did you see any improvements in your sleep and breathing or sense of smell?

Sleep has improved a bit. Definitely my sense of smell is more acute. Also, my TMD is about 80% improved. As far as skin goes, I think the redness was the lighting probably, but my complexion is insane now. Like, my skin has been pulled tight by my cheekbones and makes me look much more youthful.

Do you think the skin improvement has to do mainly with masseter growth? Since it stretches out the skin more? Also, have you noticed any changes to your body at all? Like an increase in height or frame width? I've noticed I've grown half an inch in the last 3 months personally after not growing at all for years (Im 20),  and I've heard others report similar things. Might be hitting a second puberty.

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Posted : 16/04/2019 6:38 am
mr.mewing
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Posted by: Pame
Posted by: Achilles1
Posted by: Pame

Did you see any improvements in your sleep and breathing or sense of smell?

Sleep has improved a bit. Definitely my sense of smell is more acute. Also, my TMD is about 80% improved. As far as skin goes, I think the redness was the lighting probably, but my complexion is insane now. Like, my skin has been pulled tight by my cheekbones and makes me look much more youthful.

Do you think the skin improvement has to do mainly with masseter growth? Since it stretches out the skin more? Also, have you noticed any changes to your body at all? Like an increase in height or frame width? I've noticed I've grown half an inch in the last 3 months personally after not growing at all for years (Im 20),  and I've heard others report similar things. Might be hitting a second puberty.

probably height grow is from posture fix

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Posted : 16/04/2019 6:42 am
mewer113
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I've been mewing longer than you but I wasted 6 months doing it incorrectly

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Posted : 16/04/2019 3:09 pm
Achilles1
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Posted by: bundfalke

So shaving your beard and jutting forward your head is considered progress now?

All you have to do is look at the difference in the aesthetic line to see how much I've changed

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Posted : 17/04/2019 1:33 am
Achilles1
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Posted by: Pame
Posted by: Achilles1
Posted by: Pame

Did you see any improvements in your sleep and breathing or sense of smell?

Sleep has improved a bit. Definitely my sense of smell is more acute. Also, my TMD is about 80% improved. As far as skin goes, I think the redness was the lighting probably, but my complexion is insane now. Like, my skin has been pulled tight by my cheekbones and makes me look much more youthful.

Do you think the skin improvement has to do mainly with masseter growth? Since it stretches out the skin more? Also, have you noticed any changes to your body at all? Like an increase in height or frame width? I've noticed I've grown half an inch in the last 3 months personally after not growing at all for years (Im 20),  and I've heard others report similar things. Might be hitting a second puberty.

Probably a bit of masseter growth mixed with higher cheekbones. 

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Posted : 17/04/2019 1:47 am
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